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Today In Bama World

hoops2

Mar 15, 2011
5:25am

So I guess you people think that he is showing leadership in the following:

Japan
Libya
deficit
budget
govt shutdown

Comparisons to President Bush don't count

alanleroy

Mar 15, 2011
5:32am

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- In less than 2 years he has the record for most days playing golf.

I see. Days off "playing golf" count more than days off "clearing brush", because mowing the lawn at the Crawford Ranch isn't really vacation time. Thats hard work, not vacation !
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So PJ's point through sarcasm is that both Bush and Obama lacked the proper dedication to tackling the serious issues of our time....and we need a President who has the tenacity to forgo his vacation and PTO for 4 years while he focuses on bringing a divided nation together....I think you may be on to something, but far be it from me to put words in your mouth.

Far be it from you, indeed. Because if I were to make such a point then I would have to believe in the false equivalence of vacation days taken by the two presidents which in reality is outweighed by the former president on a scale of 3:1

But I never spent time criticizing GWB about his days off. In fact, I would have preferred he took 365/days a year off for his entire tenure. Our country would have been much better off. There are plenty of legitimate gripes to have with the leadership of the former president. I dont have to be petty and cry about his vacation days.

Of course, anyone who voted for Bush twice who uses "vacation days" as a metric for blasting the performance of the current president...is....you know.....A MASSIVE HYPOCRITE SUFFERING FROM A MASSIVE FIT OF FALSE OUTRAGE ! GRRRRRRR !!!!

Yeah..I know how you feel...once those guys get on the public payroll they start working the system. Golfing and Chopping wood at taxpayer's expense....There ought to be a law.

pjstroh

Mar 15, 2011
6:37am

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So I guess you people think that he is showing leadership in the following:

Japan
Libya
deficit
budget
govt shutdown

Comparisons to President Bush don't count

Yes I do.

Hoops spent two years counting the days to the midterm election so Republicans could take leadership away from Obama. And now that they have it ....Hoops and Republicans...... yearn for more leadership from Obama.

Whatever happened to "taking your country back" after the election? If all the GOP was going to do was criticize the president they didn't need the November election - thats all they did for two years prior and thats all they're doing now.

(Oh, and I dont compare this president to Bush. I just point out your disengennous outrage and massive hypocrisy).

alanleroy

Mar 15, 2011
7:05am

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So I guess you people think that he is showing leadership in the following:

Japan
Libya
deficit
budget
govt shutdown

Comparisons to President Bush don't count

Oh my. So this must mean that the Democrats took leadership away from Bush in 2006 and they lead us right into the financial crisis of 2008....So all those job loss charts that forkie constantly publishes actually reflect Decomrats assuming leadership in 2006 rather than 'Bush job losses'. I'll be darned if that's not another way to look at things.

drmilled

Mar 15, 2011
8:34am

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The reality is the United States and the citizens of the U.S. are in a sorry state of affairs. We know the problems. What is needed TODAY is proper leadership from the politicians who were elected to do this very job. Well, the job is not being done. This ,I believe, we can all agree on. Another thing, what happened yesterday and by whom ever is not going to change. What happens today and tomorrow is what is important. Anyone can talk about who failed and why. How about some of you learned people posting some solutions? Well...?

pjstroh

Mar 15, 2011
10:21am

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So I guess you people think that he is showing leadership in the following:

Japan
Libya
deficit
budget
govt shutdown

Comparisons to President Bush don't count

Yes I do.

Hoops spent two years counting the days to the midterm election so Republicans could take leadership away from Obama. And now that they have it ....Hoops and Republicans...... yearn for more leadership from Obama.

What was that you were saying earlier about not being able to put words in my mouth? You were right then - and now too.

Democrats articulated ideas for the future in 2006 and ran on those ideas in 2008. You might recongize some of those ideas by the wealth of legilsation that has been passed since they took office in 2008: Healthcare Reform just to name one.

What are the big Republican ideas they are going to run on for 2012? Demanding Obama show more leadership? Thats all the GOP has got so far. And thats all our resident conservatives expect from them.

alanleroy

Mar 15, 2011
11:27am

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Democrats articulated ideas for the future in 2006 and ran on those ideas in 2008. You might recongize some of those ideas by the wealth of legilsation that has been passed since they took office in 2008: Healthcare Reform just to name one.

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Remind me what they accomplished in 2006. If their only accomplishment was 'articulating ideas for the future', it looks like the current Republicans are articulating about some reduction in government spending.

I still find it interesting how you can claim Republicans have taken 'leadership' away from Obama by winning the house and still blame Bush for the 2008 financial crisis...By your logic, Democrats had already taken away his leadership two years earlier.

pjstroh

Mar 15, 2011
12:22pm

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Democrats articulated ideas for the future in 2006 and ran on those ideas in 2008. You might recongize some of those ideas by the wealth of legilsation that has been passed since they took office in 2008: Healthcare Reform just to name one.

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I agree "my logic" sounds awkward when you set up strawman positions I don't make - and this is now the third time on this thread you've done it - and its sadly obvious.

So allow me to play your childish game:

By your logic, the president can simply bypass the GOP controlled House of Representatives and implement whatever laws he likes because the GOP has no leadership roles in the government.

Of course, thats BS - just like your depiction of my words. Neither party has a monopoly on power or leadership in Washington at the moment. That was not true prior to January. Now Republicans own part of the pie - thus taking away leadership from Obama. Is that ariculate enough for you or do you want to put more words in my mouth so you understand better?

...and getting back to my point: What is the GOP doing with this new leadership role? DO they have a plan? Do they have any ideas on how to create jobs? Fix Healthcare? Fix the budget? Or are they resigned to relinquish all of that responsibility to the communist president they have been crying about nonstop for the last 2 years. You certainly dont seem to demand any more from them.

alanleroy

Mar 15, 2011
1:38pm

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Democrats articulated ideas for the future in 2006 and ran on those ideas in 2008. You might recongize some of those ideas by the wealth of legilsation that has been passed since they took office in 2008: Healthcare Reform just to name one.

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Remind me what they accomplished in 2006. If their only accomplishment was 'articulating ideas for the future', it looks like the current Republicans are articulating about some reduction in government spending.

I still find it interesting how you can claim Republicans have taken 'leadership' away from Obama by winning the house and still blame Bush for the 2008 financial crisis...By your logic, Democrats had already taken away his leadership two years earlier.

Dude, don't get your panties in a wad...I was just making fun of your blatantly partisan politics. I guess I hit a never. The Republicans attack the Democrats for Presidential Inaction. The Democrats attack the Republicans for congressional inaction. The roles were reversed in 2006. They still attacked each other. That's not why they were hired.

Now as to what I demand...I demand that our elected officials in both parties work together to pass bipartisan legislation that addresses the great issues of our times....like fixing our long run structural deficit for instance...

How about considering the financial reforms suggested by Alan Simpson and Erskin Bowles? The Democats and Republans aren't doing the people's work. They aren't doing their jobs....they're doing their Party's work and that needs to stop.

What I demand is that when one party is in power it doesn't make laws in locked back rooms to the exclusion of 1/2 the country, but offers the real transparancy it promised when votes were on the line. I demand much more, but it all requires the two parties work together...that just ain't gonna happen with our current batch of partisan cronies

pjstroh

Mar 15, 2011
2:28pm

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No worries. I'm not the least bit upset - just continually amused by the way you fancy yourself as some kind of non-partisan messiah.

On a partisan thread started by one of our resident conservatives you (in typical fashion) ignore the conservative-partisan premise of the author and instead go after the people who confront it.

Does the phrase "Home town ref" mean anything to you?

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