36 Reasons Why Texas Sucks!

Originally posted by: Edso

My college roommate and his wife left for Idaho after they retired 4 years ago.  Sold their house in Brentwood (Bay Area) for a good penny and then bought land and built a house in Cascade, which is between Boise and McCall, I believe.  They love the outdoors and have family in Boise.  Their son is a pitcher for the Oakland A's.  He's injured right now, but was an All Star in 2022.  (Thought you might find that interesting since you are a baseball guy). Have a great time on your trip.  


I spent a fair amount of time on Hwy 55, the road between Boise and McCall, about 20 years ago. The highway goes through some amazing scenery, including a narrow canyon that's great for whitewater rafting (the Payette River?). I remember seeing Cascade, which at the time was pretty much nothing but a bunch of empty lots being subdivided and one gas station/store, and thinking about buying some land and putting in a cabin. I also seriously considered McCall, a beautiful lakeside mountain town. I also thought seriously about Sandpoint, to the north of Coeur D'Alene. Two things ultimately stopped me: the winters in that part of the country are effin' brutal, and the people...well, they're conservative. As in very very conservative. As in, gun love-soaked evangelicals conservative. AND--they're pretty nasty about it. Don't dare to disagree with them! It's a very very white state, so nonwhite people need to be outta there by sundown. Northern Idaho is and has historically been home to multiple neo-Nazi enclaves, where pickup truck-driving goobers meet in the woods every weekend to shoot beer cans.

 

I can see the appeal of this part of the country for people who have a certain ideology. The government's policies are hard right, the governor is a proud MAGA, and the social structure is...nonexistent. Every man for himself, mountain man independence, gol-durn it. This attitude has led to such phenomena as: the existence of a sales tax on groceries (such a tax is highly regressive, but paying for state functions this way has a LOT of appeal for people moving there with a stash to build a McMansion), health care facilities so poor that Idaho shoveled thousands of covid patients into Washington and Oregon (and the governor's crusade against masks and vaccines made that much worse), and a movement to annex the conservative counties of eastern Oregon and Washington.

 

Northern Idaho is indeed a paradise for those who like the outdoors, enjoy guns, and think that it's all a liberal conspiracy: everything, including the weather. And of course, it USED to be pretty cheap to live there. Not any more. I kinda wish I'd bought some land in Cascade and just sat on it.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

And you know that they've "fled" those two states...how?

 

Note that I'm going to hold you to "fled." Just plain "moved there because I wanted to" won't cut it.

 

Happy 4th, idiot.


Because Pete, my retired oil and gas executive and college buddy that you claimed doesn't exist, lives in McCall 4 months during summer.  It's not difficult for him to figure out, after six years owning his place, who is moving in.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Because Pete, my retired oil and gas executive and college buddy that you claimed doesn't exist, lives in McCall 4 months during summer.  It's not difficult for him to figure out, after six years owning his place, who is moving in.


Ahhhh...so one of your friends moved there...and you translated that to "people" are "fleeing"...oh, never mind. People are also "fleeing" Idaho for Oregon and California. I know, because I have some friends who did just that. What were they "fleeing"? A government that's as hard right as it gets and a shamefully poor health care system that features an anti-vaccine crusading governor.

 

I'm beginning to see why you enjoy making broad generalizations about entire states based on the experiences of one or two friends! It's fun!

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Ahhhh...so one of your friends moved there...and you translated that to "people" are "fleeing"...oh, never mind. People are also "fleeing" Idaho for Oregon and California. I know, because I have some friends who did just that. What were they "fleeing"? A government that's as hard right as it gets and a shamefully poor health care system that features an anti-vaccine crusading governor.

 

I'm beginning to see why you enjoy making broad generalizations about entire states based on the experiences of one or two friends! It's fun!


Kevin, migration numbers are simple to find on the interweb. 


Originally posted by: Boilerman

Kevin, migration numbers are simple to find on the interweb. 


Perhaps, though I doubt their accuracy--there is no system in place where people report that they've moved from one state to another. Such data would have to be aggregated from several different sources and would need to be vetted.

 

But I'm not talking about migration numbers, though I'm certain that just as many people have left Idaho for other states as have left other states for Idaho. What I'm talking about is your idiot assumption that you know WHY people have left other states for Idaho. That's just a lie--you have no idea, and frankly, neither does anyone else who hasn't looked up everyone who's moved and talked to them. You ain't done that--one "friendo" doesn't count.

 

So sorry, your loaded language of "fleeing" invalidates everything you've said.

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