Accountability

Be careful what you say, it could (and did) cost this soldier his career -- https://fb.watch/7XT0jEv0-U/

Edited on Sep 10, 2021 8:30pm
Originally posted by: David Miller

Be careful what you say, it could (and did) cost this soldier his career -- https://fb.watch/7XT0jEv0-U/


Really?  I waited, and waited, and waited to hear something profound, and if true, enough to "cost him his career."   I heard nothing of substance other than what we all wonder about, which is the decision making processes of senior leadership.  If he got busted down in rank for going public like this, I'm sorry.  If he got a dishonorable discharge (which is really, really rare...and there are degrees of "less than honorable" discharge which still leave the Veteran with certain benefits and privileges) I'm sorry.  He would have recourse, which would take years and he would likely win.   Hero?  We considered every service man/woman a hero, period.  What else did he do to earn such high praise?

 

More 'Death by Social Media', I'm guessing.

 

Candy

You really are obtuse. This career soldier only asked for the higher up military morons who mishandled the Afghan fiasco to show accountability for thier actions - which they have refused to do. This officer, for stating their lack of accountability has been unjustly relieved of command. 

Originally posted by: David Miller

You really are obtuse. This career soldier only asked for the higher up military morons who mishandled the Afghan fiasco to show accountability for thier actions - which they have refused to do. This officer, for stating their lack of accountability has been unjustly relieved of command. 


What does the soldier mean by "show accountability"?  Go on TV with heartfelt apologies?  What else?

 

If he said "I was relieved of my command because I spoke out " I didn't hear it.  And I would be sorry for that.  He isn't the first, of course.  And most in the military (and any Fed employee--I was one) know speaking publicly against your organization/supervisors/directors has adverse consequences.


 His being relieved of command is verified across the internet, if one cares to look. Apparently telling the truth has "adverse consequences". Definition of "showing accountability"--  an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions.

Candy, you've seen what happens when David posts one of his widdle Facebook videos and someone disagrees with what he says it means. He insults that person and calls them a liar.

 

In this instance, he called you "obtuse" for DARING to disagree with him. You're the exact opposite of obtuse. You're perceptive and articulate, and the fact that you and I sometimes disagree doesn't change that one bit.

 

David owes you an apology, but one will not be forthcoming, of course. I therefore recommend that you don't engage with him directly. Comment on the evil nonsense topics he starts, but don't converse with him. He'll just go all David Miller on you.

Apparently Kevin can not stand or handle the fact that his asinine, twisted, proven incorrect spewings are shown to be nothing but twisted lies. I apologize when I am found to be wrong, which I am not. Definition of obtuse = annoying insensitive or slow to understand - which Candy is obviously guilty of. Calling one obtuse is not disagreeing - it is a word which describes one who is slow to understand, period. Also, it is not an insult, for it is a true fact.

George Bernard Shaw  wrote - "Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance". I can almost forgive those who are slow to understand for they have the chance to finally comprehend the truth. Spewers of false knowledge are nothing more than liars who manipulate others with falsehoods and deception - which are the overriding traits of lying liberals.

Edited on Sep 12, 2021 10:09am
Originally posted by: David Miller

 His being relieved of command is verified across the internet, if one cares to look. Apparently telling the truth has "adverse consequences". Definition of "showing accountability"--  an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions.


Oh, OK.  "verified across the internet."  Got it.  

 

You are correct, though, that I am slow to understand a lot of things.  Don't take it personal if you go to the trouble to post a link, then I view the link, but then maybe I question part or all of it.  I assume you post those things for us to opine about them, to agree or disagree, like or not like?  And comment on, one way or the other?  And perhaps you might consider an opposite position?  Maybe not agree, but consider?

 

I believe I did say in my first reply that IF that soldier was busted down in rank for speaking what he thought was true I would be sorry for that.  That kind of adverse action is a fact of life if you work for any government in any capacity.  Generally a private citizen can say and post things with little if any consequence.  Free speech and all that.  But a person given authority, like command of a military operation, doesn't have the same luxury without possible consequences.  This soldier would know he was taking a risk falling on his sword for a cause he felt strongly about.

 

Candy

 

 

 Certainly this career soldier knew the repercussions that awaited him for speaking the truth - but he did it anyway because he knew it was the right thing to do and apparently ( as he was proven correct) the gutless so-called military "leaders" have slithered back into their basements and refuse to be held accountable - all the while silencing this truth telling soldier by relieving him of his command. The military mindset about not accepting responsibility for mistakes does not make what this soldier said untrue - it just highlights the insanity about a group that does wrongdoings and when brought to light, kill the messenger. 

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