And them Democrats didn't mumble a word!!! Spent 186 BILLION to fund the Ukraine war!! TAX PAYERS MONEY and Sleepy Creepy Joe said ya'll gonna take it and love it!!!!!!

I agree with LiveFree's approach, it costs nothing to be polite but firm and intellectually rigorous, even in the face of insults.  Most importantly, if someone is hostile it's far too easy to dismiss everything else that they have to say; we're all vulnerable to the halo effect.

But surely you've seen that even when Miller presents his dogshit in an aggressive and confrontational manner (i.e., 98% of the time), it's often given a legitimacy it doesn't deserve and is discussed rationally by others.

You see, it's not his dogshit per se that we all dislike. It's how he presents it. Much like with non-metaphorical dogshit, we don't care if the neighbor's dog poops; we care if he does it on our lawn and we have to smell it.

There are myriad other sources for MAGA thoughts (nothing Miller posts is original), and many of them, such as Fox Nooze, are at least civil, even if they're lying through their teeth, So let's flip around what you said. If Miller presents a genuinely interesting topic worthy of discussion, but does so in his usual nasty, confrontational matter, insulting and calling liars everyone who may disagree, screaming TDS TDS TDS, etc., doesn't that degrade the quality of whatever discussion may arise?

To put it another way, if someone walks up to someone else, shows them a newspaper article, and says, "What do you think about this, you stupid, ignorant asshole?", are they likely to get a thoughtful, reasoned response? Is constructive dialogue going to be generated? 

I disagree that it costs nothing to be polite to Miller. It encourages him. But worse, it constitutes endorsement of his approach to propaganda dissemination. It's the equivalent of turning the other cheek. The result of turning the other cheek is that the same attacker hits you a second time. And a third.

   The Sink's hypocrite dispensing "civility" -- 8+ years of hateful rhetoric, name calling, foul language and lie after lie - and Lewis has the unmitigated audacity to complain about how and what I say. 

Yes, I certainly do. You're an asshole and a liar. Whatever you say about me doesn't excuse that one bii.

Oh, and fuck you!

 Oh, the civility.....

You aren't worthy of civility, because you are NEVER civil yourself. You act like a complete asshole, and not just to me, but to other members such as Patsy, Candy, and LiveFree who have been unfailingly polite to you. Yet, you piss in their faces. 

So, fuck you, you little pedo pervert. Shove your hypocritical "civility" bleat up your wrinkled old ass.

Oh, and fuck you, you Trump-licking Nazi wannabe.

Civil enough for you?

    Nothing new here - just more of the same as it has been for over 8+ years.

This is the dichotomy, or possibly a false dichotomy, between my own intent when I post a response to David's or anyone else's posts. 

I do aim to be polite, and will continue to be polite.  It is wrong to tell me who I should be polite to.  Politeness is never a wrong thing.

Candy

I'm confused.  Did the United States initiate the war on Ukraine?

It can be. Politeness to Hitler encouraged him to start WWII. Jeffrey Dahmer used unfailing politeness to lure in his victims. And as I said, politeness in response to assholery may be noble and all that, but in practice, it just encourages more of the same.