Angry Toddler Trump Screws Soldiers Stationed Overseas

I guess somebody in the Administration finally mustered the courage to tell Trump he can't end birthright citizenship because of that pesky constitution. 

 

What is an angry toddler to do? Well, he looked the one place he could end birthright citizenship military bases overseas and US embassies overseas. Hereinafter, children born to active duty citizen-soldiers on an overseas military base or diplomats working abroad for the U.S. government will not receive birthright citizenship.  

 

I am sure all the conservatives will celebrate now that Trump has found a way to stick it to the children of the troops. Maybe Trump was looking for a way to get back at his archnemesis, John McCain's ghost.  If this edict would have been in effect when John McCain was born, he wouldn't have been eligible to run for President.   

 

 

That could probably be evaded by a woman who is about to give birth taking a flight home. You're right, though, it's a stupid restriction. What country would such a child be a citizen OF? US embassies are US territories--not sure about military bases (I think they're leased from the host country).

 

I can just imagine someone exploding as they find out their child isn't a US citizen even though they are a citizen and have been serving their country. The toddler's tantrum will only cost him votes and not accomplish a thing.

 

It's stupid shit like this that makes it hard for me to fathom why Trumpers remain slavishly loyal to this jerkwad.

As usual, Mark and Kevin are wrong. There's a boatload of stuff you've either left out or are lying about. It will only affect a small number of people.

 

"The policy won’t affect children born to U.S. citizens serving abroad. Those children are still entitled to automatic citizenship, officials said."

 

"'This does NOT impact birthright citizenship,' Cuccinelli said."

 

"Birthright citizenship is guaranteed automatically to children of U.S. citizens living abroad who have established residency in the U.S.: 'This policy update does not deny citizenship to the children of U.S. government employees or members of the military born abroad,' the statement indicated."

 

That's part of what is written here: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/08/29/new-immigration-policy-withholds-automatic-citizenship-for-some-children-of-troops-overseas/

 

Edited on Aug 28, 2019 9:55pm
Originally posted by: Bob Orme

As usual, Mark and Kevin are wrong. There's a boatload of stuff you've either left out or are lying about. It will only affect a small number of people.

 

"The policy won’t affect children born to U.S. citizens serving abroad. Those children are still entitled to automatic citizenship, officials said."

 

"'This does NOT impact birthright citizenship,' Cuccinelli said."

 

"Birthright citizenship is guaranteed automatically to children of U.S. citizens living abroad who have established residency in the U.S.: 'This policy update does not deny citizenship to the children of U.S. government employees or members of the military born abroad,' the statement indicated."

 

That's part of what is written here: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/08/29/new-immigration-policy-withholds-automatic-citizenship-for-some-children-of-troops-overseas/

 


 

 

Bob if it only impacts a couple of hundred children a year, why make the change? What purpose does it serve? They are children of U.S. citzens serving in the military. Why should they be punished? The bottom line is Trump was angry when he learned birthright citizenship coulden't be ended by executive order, so he took his anger out on kids of soliders serving in the military. By your response, I take it you approve. 


Yes, Bob approves of everything Trump does, even (especially) the really stupid things. He's a true, loyal Trump lackey.

 

I would give Bob credit if he had the balls to acknowledge that this was a stupid and pointless move by Trump. But he doesn't have the brains, courage, guts, honesty, or decency to admit that his hero, Trumpie-poo, makes mistakes.

 

Trump tantrums are becoming more frequent, and every time he has one, he finds some random people to hurt. Shame on Bob and all the Trumpers for butt-loving this awful man.

 

Bend over, Bob. It's almost Trump Twitter Time.

When poor old DonDiego lived in El Paso, Texas some decades ago he became aware of the unintended consequences of the interpretation of the Constitution that "anyone born within the United States is a citizen of the United States".

 

It was a common practice for pregnant women residents of Juarez, Mexico upon the start of labor to cross the bridge into El Paso.  And waiting at the US side was a taxi-cab which would "deliver" her to the El Paso County Hospital.  By law, . . . and also by the simple application of humanity, . . . the hospital had to accept her as a patient.

 

Poor old DonDiego agrees with those who opine it was not the intention of the authors of the 14th Amendment that citizenship be granted to illegal or temporary immigrants.  And it should be a target of President Trump's initiative.

 

There is no intention, . . . and there is zero-probability, . . . that any law intended to addresss such inappropriate methods of gaining citizenship will impact the citizenship-rights for the children of military and diplomatic US citizens abroad to be counted as US citizens at birth.

Such "speculation" is politically motivated nonsense.

 

 

Any time our liberal friends here on LVA even get a sniff of anything to scream foul about well, they do it!

No reason to wait for any proof or what is REALLY said or DONE they are already forming their own spin on it!

 

This exact thing is what has taken CNN to be one of the most untrusted news reporters in our country!

Sorry, guys, the truth is that Trump hates the idea of birthright citizenship and is trying to find ways to deny it to people. Whether his schemes succeed or not is a matter for the courts.

 

But DonD, doesn't pretty much everything in the Constitution have "unintended consequences"? It was written when society, and life itself, was radically different. Yet, conservatives insist that the Second Amendment, written to safeguard the collective right of the citizenry to raise a militia, should be interpreted to mean that every individual has the right to own weapons of war. The Founding Fathers never imagined that the First Amendment would be applied to Twitter posts. Et cetera.

 

At the time the 14th Amendment was written, there were thousands of immigrants coming into the US every year. Not all of them stayed. Most did. It would not have been practical to say, "OK, you're only a citizen if your parents stay here for X amount of time." It was simpler to have one basic criterion for citizenship.

 

But you know what? Even back then, from the day the Amendment was added to the Constitution, there were people bleating about how all those spics/wops/kikes/bohunks/gooks/etc. shouldn't be allowed citizenship, because they were NOT REAL AMURRICANS and had come here to BE TAKIN' OUR JOBZ. The US government decided to take the compassionate approach, on the premise that having additional citizens was a good thing.

 

Now, Republicans and Trumpers are screaming that immigrants are bad. It can't be denied that they are making active efforts to choke off immigration, legal AND illegal. It's all part of the white suoremacist, fear-based narrative that titillates "the base."

I see Conservatives have yet to address why punishing a couple of hundred kids a year belonging to American soldiers is a good idea. I think it is fair to assume they are perfectly fine with it. 

 

Don, by all means, let's hereinafter say the 2nd amendment only applies to well-regulated militia members carrying flintlock rifles. 

 

And please let's restore the 4th amendment to what the framers meant and get rid of all of those exceptions added by those activist Judges. Oh, and let's not forget the 1st amendment that has no limiting language whatsoever.  

Trumpers don't understand that the Constitution is a living document. Especially now that the Orange One doesn't respect it, and is trying to kill it.

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