Another day, another ICE killing

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Here's two examples that demonstrate the Hyporcrisy, Stupidity, and Bullshitery of MAGA pundits trying to rationalize the Minnesota murders by government agents....

 

Example 1)  The Bundy Ranch incident.   You might remember in the Obama Administration when a Federal Court orderd the Nevada farmer off land he was illegally cultivating.   FOX News and MAGA were ready for Civil War.   All kinds of  armed Tea Baggy protestors inserted themselves into that incident.   Even pointing armed weapons at Federal officers who were enforcing the court order.   See the sniper asshole below.    This was a far more direct threat to Federal officers than anything the Minnesota protestors offered up.     But restraint was used.  No tea-baggey assholes pointing guns at Federal agents were killed.

 

 

Federal rangers face off against armed protesters in Nevada 'range war' |  US news | The Guardian

 

 

Example 2)  Kyle Rittenhouse walking up and down the street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest.    Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles laid out by short bus, David?  No.    How come?  Because law enforcement wasnt comprised of fascist, murdering assholes in both these cases.

 

Rifle Used by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha Shootings Will Be Destroyed - The  New York Times

 

 

Oh, uh, Happy New Year.

Here's two examples that demonstrate the Hyporcrisy, Stupidity, and Bullshitery of MAGA pundits trying to rationalize the Minnesota murders by government agents....

 

Example 1)  The Bundy Ranch incident.   You might remember in the Obama Administration when a Federal Court orderd the Nevada farmer off land he was illegally cultivating.   FOX News and MAGA were ready for Civil War.   All kinds of  armed Tea Baggy protestors inserted themselves into that incident.   Even pointing armed weapons at Federal officers who were enforcing the court order.   See the sniper asshole below.    This was a far more direct threat to Federal officers than anything the Minnesota protestors offered up.     But restraint was used.  No tea-baggey assholes pointing guns at Federal agents were killed.

 

 

Federal rangers face off against armed protesters in Nevada 'range war' |  US news | The Guardian

 

 

Example 2)  Kyle Rittenhouse walking up and down the street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest.    Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles laid out by short bus, David?  No.    How come?  Because law enforcement wasnt comprised of fascist, murdering assholes in both these cases.

 

Rifle Used by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha Shootings Will Be Destroyed - The  New York Times

 

 

Oh, uh, Happy New Year.


  Your moronic "examples" have nothing to do with current events.

street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest. Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles

 

Because there were no cops around at the time.  The mayor had told the police to stand down, creating the situation where only bad things can happen.

 

Remember Kyle was assaulted by a guy with a skateboard aimed at his head

Originally posted by: tom

street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest. Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles

 

Because there were no cops around at the time.  The mayor had told the police to stand down, creating the situation where only bad things can happen.

 

Remember Kyle was assaulted by a guy with a skateboard aimed at his head


  PJ prefers to overlook/ignore the facts.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Here's two examples that demonstrate the Hyporcrisy, Stupidity, and Bullshitery of MAGA pundits trying to rationalize the Minnesota murders by government agents....

 

Example 1)  The Bundy Ranch incident.   You might remember in the Obama Administration when a Federal Court orderd the Nevada farmer off land he was illegally cultivating.   FOX News and MAGA were ready for Civil War.   All kinds of  armed Tea Baggy protestors inserted themselves into that incident.   Even pointing armed weapons at Federal officers who were enforcing the court order.   See the sniper asshole below.    This was a far more direct threat to Federal officers than anything the Minnesota protestors offered up.     But restraint was used.  No tea-baggey assholes pointing guns at Federal agents were killed.

 

 

Federal rangers face off against armed protesters in Nevada 'range war' |  US news | The Guardian

 

 

Example 2)  Kyle Rittenhouse walking up and down the street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest.    Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles laid out by short bus, David?  No.    How come?  Because law enforcement wasnt comprised of fascist, murdering assholes in both these cases.

 

Rifle Used by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha Shootings Will Be Destroyed - The  New York Times

 

 

Oh, uh, Happy New Year.

Here's two examples that demonstrate the Hyporcrisy, Stupidity, and Bullshitery of MAGA pundits trying to rationalize the Minnesota murders by government agents....

 

Example 1)  The Bundy Ranch incident.   You might remember in the Obama Administration when a Federal Court orderd the Nevada farmer off land he was illegally cultivating.   FOX News and MAGA were ready for Civil War.   All kinds of  armed Tea Baggy protestors inserted themselves into that incident.   Even pointing armed weapons at Federal officers who were enforcing the court order.   See the sniper asshole below.    This was a far more direct threat to Federal officers than anything the Minnesota protestors offered up.     But restraint was used.  No tea-baggey assholes pointing guns at Federal agents were killed.

 

 

Federal rangers face off against armed protesters in Nevada 'range war' |  US news | The Guardian

 

 

Example 2)  Kyle Rittenhouse walking up and down the street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest.    Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles laid out by short bus, David?  No.    How come?  Because law enforcement wasnt comprised of fascist, murdering assholes in both these cases.

 

Rifle Used by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha Shootings Will Be Destroyed - The  New York Times

 

 

Oh, uh, Happy New Year.


I supported The Bundy protesters, I supported Kyle Rittenhouse. And I support the protesters in Minnesota including Alex pretti. 

 

"Brandishing a military grade assault rifle" really dude? Please define the term assault rifle. Please define the term military grade. 

 

The semi-automatic modern sporting rifle that Kyle Rittenhouse carried did not have a selector switch to go to three shot burst or full auto. Therefore it was not by definition an assault rifle. 


Originally posted by: tom

street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest. Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles

 

Because there were no cops around at the time.  The mayor had told the police to stand down, creating the situation where only bad things can happen.

 

Remember Kyle was assaulted by a guy with a skateboard aimed at his head


I agree that any honest analysis of all the videos of  Kyle Rittenhouse clearly show that he was a victim and defended himself lawfully. 

Much like Tom inventing some narrative contrary to the video footage in Minnesota he does the same with Kyle Rittenhouse.    100% bullshit.   

Right wing gun nuts have a well documented history of pointing guns st people in the  midst of law enforcement activity.  Neither Tom nor David subscribe to their own bullshit...hence their response to the aforementioned incidents.     Be honest, guys. It's not like we don't already know.    You're full of shit

Edited on Jan 26, 2026 3:07pm
Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Here's two examples that demonstrate the Hyporcrisy, Stupidity, and Bullshitery of MAGA pundits trying to rationalize the Minnesota murders by government agents....

 

Example 1)  The Bundy Ranch incident.   You might remember in the Obama Administration when a Federal Court orderd the Nevada farmer off land he was illegally cultivating.   FOX News and MAGA were ready for Civil War.   All kinds of  armed Tea Baggy protestors inserted themselves into that incident.   Even pointing armed weapons at Federal officers who were enforcing the court order.   See the sniper asshole below.    This was a far more direct threat to Federal officers than anything the Minnesota protestors offered up.     But restraint was used.  No tea-baggey assholes pointing guns at Federal agents were killed.

 

 

Federal rangers face off against armed protesters in Nevada 'range war' |  US news | The Guardian

 

 

Example 2)  Kyle Rittenhouse walking up and down the street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest.    Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles laid out by short bus, David?  No.    How come?  Because law enforcement wasnt comprised of fascist, murdering assholes in both these cases.

 

Rifle Used by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha Shootings Will Be Destroyed - The  New York Times

 

 

Oh, uh, Happy New Year.

I supported The Bundy protesters, I supported Kyle Rittenhouse. And I support the protesters in Minnesota including Alex pretti. 

 

"Brandishing a military grade assault rifle" really dude? Please define the term assault rifle. Please define the term military grade. 

 

The semi-automatic modern sporting rifle that Kyle Rittenhouse carried did not have a selector switch to go to three shot burst or full auto. Therefore it was not by definition an assault rifle. 


Call it whatever you want.    It's in the picture and his finger is on the trigger.   Alex preti had a hand gun that was holstered and removed by law enforcement before he was murdered in cold blood.   

Tom and David and every MAGa dipshit will explain to you how Preti posed a bigger threat to law enforcement than the two examples I cited.   They're full of shit that way.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Much like Tom inventing some narrative contrary to the video footage in Minnesota he does the same with Kyle Rittenhouse.    100% bullshit.   

Right wing gun nuts have a well documented history of pointing guns st people in the  midst of law enforcement activity.  Neither Tom nor David subscribe to their own bullshit...hence their response to the aforementioned incidents.     Be honest, guys. It's not like we don't already know.    You're full of shit


One does not have to be a "right-wing gun nut". In order to use a firearm to protect themselves from government intrusion.

 

Our country was basically founded on armed resistance against government.

 

I agree with you that there are those that seem quite hypocritical when criticizing Alex simply for carrying while protesting. 

 

I'm genuinely curious if you define all gun owners/carriers as gun nuts? I don't want to put words in your mouth but that's what I tend to infer when I hear people use the term gun nuts. 

 

It is worth mentioning that several firearm organizations have condemned The administration's handling of the shooting and supported Alex's right to carry. 

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Call it whatever you want.    It's in the picture and his finger is on the trigger.   Alex preti had a hand gun that was holstered and removed by law enforcement before he was murdered in cold blood.   

Tom and David and every MAGa dipshit will explain to you how Preti posed a bigger threat to law enforcement than the two examples I cited.   They're full of shit that way.


I agree with you that Kyle's finger does appear to be in or close to the tricker guard. Which is not a great thing to do. However I would not consider a properly slung long arm to be brandishing. 

 

I agree with you that I have seen no evidence to support the notion that Alex had any intent of causing harm to anyone. 

 

I believe he had every right to practice his first and second amendments at the same time. 

 

"They" are clearly trying to use the fact that he was armed to justify what is looking to be an unjustified shooting. 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

One does not have to be a "right-wing gun nut". In order to use a firearm to protect themselves from government intrusion.

 

Our country was basically founded on armed resistance against government.

 

I agree with you that there are those that seem quite hypocritical when criticizing Alex simply for carrying while protesting. 

 

I'm genuinely curious if you define all gun owners/carriers as gun nuts? I don't want to put words in your mouth but that's what I tend to infer when I hear people use the term gun nuts. 

 

It is worth mentioning that several firearm organizations have condemned The administration's handling of the shooting and supported Alex's right to carry. 


in The case of the Bundy ranch incident.     You can look at the groups he affiliatted with directly or the ones who showed up and pointed scoped rifles at our federal officers.  

those groups included but were not limited too:

the Oath Keepers

the White Mountain Militia

the Pratorian Guard

The Posse Comitatus

 

I invite you to research these groups' ideological Views and mission statements,     I put them all in one bucket and call them "right wing gun nuts" .    Feel free to group and label with your own vocabulary

 

 

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