Another day, another ICE killing

Originally posted by: tom

 

 

Why did he bring a loaded gun with 2 magazines to a "peaceful protest"?

 

 

 


Nothing wrong with that in and of itself. We have a right to carry. 

 

Still super early, we don't have a lot of information yet. 

 

I am curious why he was being detained in the first place. If it turns out that they detained him just because he was armed then this will probably not be ruled justified. 

 

Do we know why he was being disarmed?

 

 

Republicans (specifically Tom and Boilerman)  lecture us constantly about the freedom to carry firearms.    That makes us all safer.    And now they are all upset someone was armed.

 

He didnt brandish the weapon.  He didnt point it at anyone.    He just had it on him.   And it was removed.   And they killed him after it was removed.   

 

Now the DHS is investigating themselves.   Yeah - that'll be impartial.       

 

Folks, we officially have a police state.  Until we get a new Congress that will actually impose checks its going to stay that way.

Edited on Jan 24, 2026 8:59pm
Originally posted by: David Miller

.......... (1)  this individual knowingly took a gun, with 2 extra magazines, to a location where officers were conducting an arrest..........


And what's wrong with that? 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

And what's wrong with that? 


It's wrong if LIBURRULS do it. Jeez, LiveFree, haven't you discerned the nuances of our dual justice system by now? Rape, murder, theft, fraud...all perfectly legal if Republicans do it. Whereas in David's MAGA world, carrying a gun--even while holding a valid permit--is a capital offense warranting summary execution. If you're at a protest against Trump, that is.


Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

And what's wrong with that? 


 Does that sound like a good idea to you? Do you realize that if he had not of brought a gun with him, then he would not have been able to brandish a gun and that he would be alive today?  By having a gun and taking his self to the location where officers were attempting to arrest a criminal, he alone set into motion the chain of events that happened. 

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Does that sound like a good idea to you? Do you realize that if he had not of brought a gun with him, then he would not have been able to brandish a gun and that he would be alive today?  By having a gun and taking his self to the location where officers were attempting to arrest a criminal, he alone set into motion the chain of events that happened. 


If he "brandished" the firearm then that was stupid and probably illegal. If he had it properly holstered then there is nothing wrong with that. 

 

There is nothing wrong with carrying a firearm as you go about your daily business in and of itself. 

 

Obviously if one is armed it would be generally wise to not resist if/when law enforcement wants to detain you. One would be well advised to politely inform the agents they do not consent to a search or seizure but they will not resist. 

 

I still have not found very much information about why the agents wanted to detain him in the first place. 

 

There hasn't really been enough information for me to make an informed decision about what happened. 

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

If he "brandished" the firearm then that was stupid and probably illegal. If he had it properly holstered then there is nothing wrong with that. 

 

There is nothing wrong with carrying a firearm as you go about your daily business in and of itself. 

 

Obviously if one is armed it would be generally wise to not resist if/when law enforcement wants to detain you. One would be well advised to politely inform the agents they do not consent to a search or seizure but they will not resist. 

 

I still have not found very much information about why the agents wanted to detain him in the first place. 

 

There hasn't really been enough information for me to make an informed decision about what happened. 

 


  Given enough time, all of the circumstances and facts will come to light. Meanwhile, seemingly everyone has an opinion - which is their right - but many of these opinions are actually speculations that have not been proven. The known facts are (1) he alone decided to carry his firearm, (2) he alone went to the location where he was shot, (3) he alone inserted himself into the situation that transpired. (4) What transpired is what will be determined, (4) his death is tragic and (5) none of this would have happened if he had not made the decisions he made. 

Our resident Liberals support violence in response to the laws that they disagree with.

I am waiting for the facts to come out before I express opinion on whether or not the shooting was justified. 

 

If the deceased was using violence to interfere with a lawful arrest then the shooting was likely justified.

 

If however he was being detained simply for carrying a firearm then it may not have been justified. 

 

 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Our resident Liberals support violence in response to the laws that they disagree with.


You're quite the simpleton.

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