It was a blanket pardon--he didn't look at any mitigating or condemning circumstances. The pardon was "justified" simply because they were Trump supporters--and after all, do those people ever do anything wrong in the eyes of the cult?
It was a blanket pardon--he didn't look at any mitigating or condemning circumstances. The pardon was "justified" simply because they were Trump supporters--and after all, do those people ever do anything wrong in the eyes of the cult?
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
But the Turd knew, or should have known, that he was under prosecution for felony murder. But I guess if you're gonna pardon a murderer, it doesn't matter much if he's murdered someone else since, hm?
You assume too much as your TDS kicks into overdrive. Give it a rest - no one is buying what you are selling.
Originally posted by: David Miller
You assume too much as your TDS kicks into overdrive. Give it a rest - no one is buying what you are selling.
Can't answer my question? Coward!
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Can't answer my question? Coward!
I don't feel like wasting my time arguing with you as you suffer with your TDS today - or anytime. If and when you decide to comport yourself like a civil human being I may reconsider.
Originally posted by: tom
First - there was no insurrection. Nobody was convicted of that in the Capitol riot
16 people were convicted of seditious conspiracy for the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Seditious conspiracy carries a maximum penalty of 20 years, and insurrection carries a maximum penalty of 10 years. The MAGA folk were convicted of a worse crime than insurrection, yet the rank and file MAGA folks can't tell the difference. They gleefully parrot the insurrection line BS as the obedient sheeple that they are.
Thoughts on this, pussy?
Originally posted by: David Miller
I don't feel like wasting my time arguing with you as you suffer with your TDS today - or anytime. If and when you decide to comport yourself like a civil human being I may reconsider.
Coward. Weasel. You have no balls.
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
One TV report and video(s) showed him approaching an encounter of an officer 'pushing' a female for whatever reason. Other people/officers come to surrounding this encounter (victim/female/officer), shots ringing out, the others backing off then another bunch of officers lining up and watching, then more shots, at least one being the fatal one.
As mentioned, too early to judge. I predict some attempts at cover-up.
Candy
No one chimed in on my post of yesterday. This morning it appears I was at least partly correct in what I viewed. One of the networks honed in on it more clearly and ran it this morning.
The protest was going on. Alex (RIP) was shown using a cell phone, moved to assist the lady being pushed to the ground by an ICE person. An ICE man then shot pepper spray, or whatever, very close to and directly into Alex's face/eyes. Alex turned his head probably to avoid the spray. Then it was full on, ICE taking Alex to the ground. It still is unclear who (Alex or ICE) pulled what (gun, whose gun, who had the gun in hand first).
ICE all backed off after Alex was down, no attempt to check or help him. Dramatically awful video of Alex down supine on the street and nobody close to him. Bystanders were distraught, screaming, one saying "call 911." Finally ICE started to move in to assess Alex. Whether THE bullet or THE gun has been recovered?
Clearly a bunch of bad acting by ICE, not justified by any measure, though DHS and the other FED groups stated they are taking over the investigation. Does anybody think they won't 'investigate' it in their favor?
I pray Alex's family hires the best legal representation possible. For sure Alex inserted by moving to assist the lady who was being shoved (I say assaulted, though they won't call it that) by ICE. That may be his worst 'mistake', though it should not have ended his life as it did.
Candy
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
No one chimed in on my post of yesterday. This morning it appears I was at least partly correct in what I viewed. One of the networks honed in on it more clearly and ran it this morning.
The protest was going on. Alex (RIP) was shown using a cell phone, moved to assist the lady being pushed to the ground by an ICE person. An ICE man then shot pepper spray, or whatever, very close to and directly into Alex's face/eyes. Alex turned his head probably to avoid the spray. Then it was full on, ICE taking Alex to the ground. It still is unclear who (Alex or ICE) pulled what (gun, whose gun, who had the gun in hand first).
ICE all backed off after Alex was down, no attempt to check or help him. Dramatically awful video of Alex down supine on the street and nobody close to him. Bystanders were distraught, screaming, one saying "call 911." Finally ICE started to move in to assess Alex. Whether THE bullet or THE gun has been recovered?
Clearly a bunch of bad acting by ICE, not justified by any measure, though DHS and the other FED groups stated they are taking over the investigation. Does anybody think they won't 'investigate' it in their favor?
I pray Alex's family hires the best legal representation possible. For sure Alex inserted by moving to assist the lady who was being shoved (I say assaulted, though they won't call it that) by ICE. That may be his worst 'mistake', though it should not have ended his life as it did.
Candy
Yes, there was no justification whatsoever for this killing. That said, the usual diarrheal flood of "justification" has come from Trump's lackeys, Trump himself, MAGA propaganda outlets like Fox Nooze, and of course, our usual suspects here.
As soon as it became evident that the murderered person had a gun on him, the White House press secretary barfed out a statement that he was a "terrorist" and had come to Minneapolis to "incite a riot."
So what actually happened is almost irrelevant. This was obviously an extrajudicial summary execution, and the details don't matter nearly as much as the awful fact that ICE has been given de facto permission to carry out such killings. Will any of them ever face justice? Highly doubtful. (Though I do wonder why city and state authorities haven't charged and arrested all these ICE shooters )
This is all, of course, part of Trump's very successful attempt to distract us from his and Epstein's teenage rape parties and the evidence thereof. As has been this Greenland nonsense.
Candy, none of the people killed will ever find justice as long as Trump is in charge. It's not just passive refusal of federal authorities to even investigate, let alone prosecute, the killers--theyre actively obstructing it.
So what happens now? I fear that somebody, somewhere, will physically attack and maybe even kill an ICE agent. Then I can see his colleagues turning their weapons on the crowd and opening up. Dozens of bodies everywhere.
A halfway decent human being of a President would try to lower the temperature. But Trump wants the opposite. More hatred, more violence, more disregard for civil rights. He has an abiding fury against states that didn't vote for him.
So all this horrid shit going on is nothing other than Trump "retribution." Truly sickening.
First of all, ICE did not shoot him, it was a Border Patrol agent. Secondly, as seen on the videos, Alex inserted himself into the Border Patrol officers removal of a woman from the area where they were working. Alex was pushed in an effort to get him to move away and an officer pepper sprayed (it appears from behind Alex's back) him in order get him to stop. Alex then is seen resisting the officers as they attempted to subdue him. While on the ground his weapon was discovered and a separate magazine fell to the ground. An officer grabbed the gun, moved and stepped on the magazine as Alex continued to resist. Another officer, the one who shot him, saw the gun Alex had and pulled out his gun, unaware (because of the continued attempt by other officers to subdue Alex) that Alex's gun had been retrieved by another officer. Why the armed Border Patrol officer started firing his gun is not fully known. That is the question - did the officer who shot Alex know that Alex's gun had been picked up by another officer, or did he think that Alex had possession of his gun? In the skirmish it appears that it would be difficult to see if Alex had possession of the gun he had brought to the scene. The bottom line is (1) bringing a gun - whether licensed to carry or not - to an area where officers were attempting to do their job was not smart, (2) inserting himself into an active situation - no matter his reason - was not smart, (3) he is shown being pushed in an attempt to get him to move away from the scene, he then did not leave and resisted the officers attempts to subdue him. (4) while on the ground his undisclosed weapon was discovered. ----- Alex was the one who placed himself in the situation, he is the one who decided to take a gun and 2 magazines ( why did he think he needed 2 magazines?), and he alone inserted himself into the scene.
Here's two examples that demonstrate the Hyporcrisy, Stupidity, and Bullshitery of MAGA pundits trying to rationalize the Minnesota murders by government agents....
Example 1) The Bundy Ranch incident. You might remember in the Obama Administration when a Federal Court orderd the Nevada farmer off land he was illegally cultivating. FOX News and MAGA were ready for Civil War. All kinds of armed Tea Baggy protestors inserted themselves into that incident. Even pointing armed weapons at Federal officers who were enforcing the court order. See the sniper asshole below. This was a far more direct threat to Federal officers than anything the Minnesota protestors offered up. But restraint was used. No tea-baggey assholes pointing guns at Federal agents were killed.

Example 2) Kyle Rittenhouse walking up and down the street - brandishing his fully loaded, military grade assault rifle in the midst of a protest. Was he gunned down by law enforcement using the principles laid out by short bus, David? No. How come? Because law enforcement wasnt comprised of fascist, murdering assholes in both these cases.

Oh, uh, Happy New Year.