It is a proposal by the senator from Oregon & endorsed by many of the presidential candidates. It’s cost is over $90 trillion with no estimate on how to pay for it
Since candidates such as warren, Harris & sanders have endorsed it, does pj favor these candidates?
Does he support Biden who favors a slimmed down version for about half the cost?
Originally posted by: tom
It is a proposal by the senator from Oregon & endorsed by many of the presidential candidates. It’s cost is over $90 trillion with no estimate on how to pay for it
Since candidates such as warren, Harris & sanders have endorsed it, does pj favor these candidates?
Does he support Biden who favors a slimmed down version for about half the cost?
Tom, let's not confuse and challenge Liberals on this site with such realistic questions. Shame on you.
Ooohh ! A proposal. Well thats sorta like a bill, I guess....minus all the committee work, semantics of implementation, financial scoring, and actual legislative voting. In other words its the same thing as Space Force. Thanks for your giant nothing burger.
In the context of record deficits caused by irresponsible legislation Tom and Boilerman have a serious warning for voters: Dont vote for Democrats because they are fiscally irresponsible....and they have a proposal to prove it !
Should we not take into account a proposal endorsed by most of the democratic candidates, when we make a decision about whether or not to vote for them?
No...because (A) your proposal was given a fictional price tag from a right wing think tank that fabricated what policies they thought might be in there. (B) the actual proposal has no specific legislation in it that can be scored....its just a broad outline of objectives. like Space Force
FactCheck.org: Tom made up a bill and price tag and told you Democratic candidates endorsed it
By contrast....I didn't make up the trillion dollar deficit enacted by Republicans. I didn't make up Tom's complete acceptance of it. I didn't make up the fact that deficit is not influencing Tom's vote in 2020.
Nope - He's much more concerned about the fake bill he made up....and the fake price tag he ascribed to it.
Thanks for stopping by
The Democrats have yet to supply a cost estimate because they know it will be really high.
Harris, booker, warren, klobuchar have all endorsed the plan & several of them are co-sponsors.
Biden endorsed a watered down version of it.
Obama is still the world record holder of govt deficits.
The earlier surpluses surpluses were the result of a bipartisan deal & Clinton has to be dragged to accept it. This has been mentioned before, but since it doesn’t reflect pj’s view of the world he ignores it.
This is big, Tom ! You're halfway there. There is no defiend pay-for mechanism in the Green New Deal....but there's also no defined legisation to pay for. You've successfully made note of one of those two things. Keep trying buddy !
I posted the FactCheck article that proves your allegation as bullshit. (Did we even need a fact check?)
So the only question left is - how much is the actual deficit going to influence Tom's vote in 2020? As much as golf maybe?
Where are the Democrats estimates? Is it because the costs & tax increases are prohibitive?
Since we only have 1 cost estimate that’s what we have to go on.
Pj ignores the earlier points about Obama’s deficits & the balanced budget.
What about the democrats vote to increase the debt ceiling?
What we do know is the Democrats have voted to increase the debt ceiling & their candidates have endorsed a very expensive green deal
Back to the original question, will pj endorse democratic candidates that will increase the deficit?
No dancing - yes or no.
Why on earth should any democrat provide an estimate for a right wing action group's legislative outline?
Tom-
You made up a bullshit bill. You made up a bullshit price tag. And then you made up a bullshit story about how candidates endorsed your bullshit bill with the bullshit price tag. And now you want me to have an intelligent discussion about your bullshit story? No - I wont. I'm simply happy to point out that you just made bullshit up again....for the millionth time on this forum.
I'll judge the candidates based upon their own proposals and ideas...not the ones fabricated by rightWingRetard.com that you want to talk about instead.
And voting to extend the debt ceiling is not a vote to increase spending - its a vote to pay for spending that already occurrred. Anyone who does not vote for it is voting to default on US Bonds. Anyone who caused the debt to require to be raised is at fault.....and who's legislation has been passed to do that since 2016. Think hard, Tom. Maybe your bullshit website has a godd story about that too !
According to PJ --" Anyone who caused the debt to require to be raised is at fault.....and who's legislation has been passed to do that since 2016" ------ Question; and who caused the debt to require that legislation to be passed prior to 2016? It was none other than YOUR DADDY Obeyme, that's who, PJ. Now go ahead with your bullshit - this should be a good story.
