Here's my bullshit, David! A picture is worth a thousand words.... try not to pop a vein
Here's my bullshit, David! A picture is worth a thousand words.... try not to pop a vein
The graph does not say anything about who's stent in the White House CAUSED the need for legislation. In other words- your graph is worthless.
"I'll judge the candidates based upon their own proposals and ideas"
Are you really this dense? The Green New Deal was endorsed by numerous candidates & several of them are co-sponsors. That is their position. Do you really think this Green New Deal will not cause a huge tax increase or increase the deficit?
Originally posted by: tom
"I'll judge the candidates based upon their own proposals and ideas"
Are you really this dense? The Green New Deal was endorsed by numerous candidates & several of them are co-sponsors. That is their position. Do you really think this Green New Deal will not cause a huge tax increase or increase the deficit?
Its dense to judge people by their own proposals instead of the bullshit lies you made up and posted here?
Well call me a hunk-O'-lead !!!
Most government programs require funding....like Obamacare. Democrats passed funding for Obamacare that actually went beyond covering the law and lowered the deficit. There were lots of non-dense imbeciles like you who predicited otherwise ....kinda like what you are doing here. I'm glad I voted for the Democrats based upon their own proposals instead of listening to the imbeciles like you.
My history is voting for people who pay for their shit. Your history is voting for people who dont.
And thats why you have to make up stories here to desperately draw attention away from your support of the current administration, right buddy?
If you are going to insult people there is no point to continuing a conversation.
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
Its dense to judge people by their own proposals instead of the bullshit lies you made up and posted here?
Well call me a hunk-O'-lead !!!
Most government programs require funding....like Obamacare. Democrats passed funding for Obamacare that actually went beyond covering the law and lowered the deficit. There were lots of non-dense imbeciles like you who predicited otherwise ....kinda like what you are doing here. I'm glad I voted for the Democrats based upon their own proposals instead of listening to the imbeciles like you.
My history is voting for people who pay for their shit. Your history is voting for people who dont.
And thats why you have to make up stories here to desperately draw attention away from your support of the current administration, right buddy?
According to PJ Stroh's very own chart, in President Obama's first term, he ran larger deficits and added more to the public debt than any President in 38 years. Actually if you continue the chart he ran larger deficits and created more public debt in his first term than any President in our nation's history. That was mostly done with a Democrat Congress.
Who are these people PJ votes for 'who pay for their shit'? Certainly not Presdient Obama and the Democrats! I will give PJ credit for being honest about one thing. Even though we borrowed our asses off and didn't really pay for it, we did get a big pile of shit for our money.
I dont mean to brag, Charles, but you kinda put me on the spot. In additon to being graph literate, I also understand the difference between the words "debt" and "deficit". Those two qualities might put me at the top of the class on this board.
New Legislation passed after Obama took office had a reducing impact on the deficit...and new legislation passed after Trump took office did the oppossitte. The graph doesn't lie...or fail to understand the definitions of words.
If you're somehow referring to my post PJ, I don't think you do understand the difference between the words 'debt' and 'deficit'. At least you don't understand how I (correctly) used those terms.
I said President Obama ran larger Deficits and added more to the Debt in his first term than any other President. For PJ's edification....Deficits 'add' to the 'Debt'. In fact the public Debt is simply the accumilation of all our Deficits. He need only look at his own chart to see the year's 2009 - 2012 are the greatest deficits on the chart....in fact the greatest in US history.
I also said President Obama 'created more public debt' than any other President in history. How does a President create more public debt than any other President in hostory? Simply by running the largest Deficits in History....because...wait for it....Deficits add to the debt!
The simple fact of the matter is that in Obama's First Term with a mostly Democratic Congress, we ran greater deficits and added more to the debt than any other 4 year period in US history. If PJ want's to use that as an example of ''paying for shit" , I don't think he even understands the definition of 'Paying'.
The Green New Deal will require an initial stimulus, and yes, that will cost money, but the result will be a shift to sustainable energy and new infrastructure. That will create, ultimately, millions of new jobs. And utterly ignoring the benefits to the environment, and completely disregarding the initiative's benefits in heading off that liberal Chinese fake news global warming hoax, let me talk about this in a language Republicans can understand--MONEY. Sometime last year, the cost of a KwH of electricity generated by a solar panel dropped below the cost of the equivalent energy generated by burning fossil fuels. Furthermore, the cost of wind power has dropped by 2/3 as the technology has improved. The Green New Deal will make trillions of dollars for the US. If it passes. If Republicans who are nothing more than puppets of the fossil fuel industry can be overcome/silenced.
