Are you watching the shit show unfold on live TV?

Originally posted by: Boilerman

  How dare Trump demand fare trade with Mexico and Canada after 50 years of them taking advantage of our good nature? 


"Former President Donald Trump is once again pledging to save American manufacturing and bring back jobs by rewriting a trade agreement with Mexico and Canada.

 

But this time, instead of replacing the North American Free Trade Agreement, known as NAFTA, which he has often described as the “worst trade deal ever made,” he wants to renegotiate his own trade deal.

Trump signed onto the US-Mexico-Canada Agreement, or USMCA, in 2018. It took effect in January 2020 and replaced NAFTA.

 

In 2018, Trump said the USMCA would be “the most modern, up-to-date, and balanced trade agreement in the history of our country, with the most advanced protections for workers ever developed.”"

 

It looks like he was wrong about his trade deal in 2018, whats the odds he does it wrong again? 

Originally posted by: Boilerman

How dare Trump demand something in return for the expenditure of hundreds of billions of dollars for protection of Zelensky's country? 


JD Vance told Zelensky that he's never thanked Trump or the American people, not true about America, who cares if he thanked Trump? He hasn't done anything for him. Zelensky did thank Biden. Then, JD and Trump threw a temper tantrum like the children they are.

 

Reminds me of when, during the pandemic, Trump said he told Pence not to take phone calls from Governors Inslee and Whitmer because they weren't thankful enough for the help he had provided. Newsflash: it's the American people's resources and money that they needed, not pentulent child Trumps.

 

 

How dare Trump demand something in return for the expenditure of hundreds of billions of dollars for protection of Zelensky's country?

 

Trump will win the negotiations with Zelensky because Zelensky has EVERYTHING to lose and Europe has almost EVERYTHING to lose, and the US has little to lose.  It's a negotiator's wet dream.

Edited on Mar 2, 2025 2:21pm
Originally posted by: Boilerman

How dare Trump demand something in return for the expenditure of hundreds of billions of dollars for protection of Zelensky's country?


That's not why the shit show at the White House happened, childish Trump wanted a thank you and his feelings were hurt. 

 

On a side note, saving the free world and our allies from an aggressive Russian dictator has been one of America's core values. Of course,e MAGA doesn't have any core values they flap in the wind with whatever the right wing media spoon feeds them. 


Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

That's not why the shit show at the White House happened, childish Trump wanted a thank you and his feelings were hurt. 

 

On a side note, saving the free world and our allies from an aggressive Russian dictator has been one of America's core values. Of course,e MAGA doesn't have any core values they flap in the wind with whatever the right wing media spoon feeds them. 


Trump will win the negotiations with Zelensky because Zelensky has EVERYTHING to lose and Europe has almost EVERYTHING to lose, and the US has little to lose. It's a negotiator's wet dream.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Trump will win the negotiations with Zelensky because Zelensky has EVERYTHING to lose and Europe has almost EVERYTHING to lose, and the US has little to lose. It's a negotiator's wet dream.


OK. Then Putin can fuck with Europe with impunity, MAGA loves their dictators. It's a wanna be dictators wet dream.

 

Maybe after Putin takes over Europe, we can all vacation in Indiana? Erp, I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

PJ has bought a misleading story from a Lyin' Liberal writer.  Over what time period have we given Israel $100 billion?

 

Israel is our friend.  Ukraine is the enemy of our enemy.  There's a difference.


Actually, there is no functional difference.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

How dare Trump demand something in return for the expenditure of hundreds of billions of dollars for protection of Zelensky's country?  I want Russia out, but Ukraine owes us big time.  How dare Trump demand fare trade with Mexico and Canada after 50 years of them taking advantage of our good nature?  How dare Trump demand that Europe starts paying far more to protect THEMSELVES from Russia?  The US is done bending over and getting fucked.  Liberals are demanding that Trump nicely ask Ukraine, Mexico, Canada, Europe, China and others... "Give America another solid fucking, please!"  His talks with Russia are intended to scare Western Europe, and Western Europe should be scared.  They need to stop expecting the US to pay for their safty.

 

Our resident Liberals are completely baffled by the art of negotiation.

 

I can only assume that PJ was ashamed when Reagan demanded that "Mr. Gorbachev, Tear Down This Wall!".

 

Our resident Liberals are such a bunch negotiation wimps that don't have a clue how to cut a deal from a position of strength.


What is "unfare" about our trade with Canada and Mexico? Maybe you've forgotten that trade with those two countries is regulated under an agreement the Turd negotiated in 2018 to supposedly replace NAFTA. If he doesn't like it, he has only himself to blame.

 

Shitting on your friends and neighbors and violating your agreements with them isn't "the art of negotiation." It's the art of assholery.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Trump will win the negotiations with Zelensky because Zelensky has EVERYTHING to lose and Europe has almost EVERYTHING to lose, and the US has little to lose. It's a negotiator's wet dream.


Only an utter fool thinks that the US has little to lose from Putin's conquest of a neighboring sovereign nation. Fools like you don't learn from history. Munich 1938. Peace in our time. Hoo boy.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

PJ has bought a misleading story from a Lyin' Liberal writer.  Over what time period have we given Israel $100 billion?

 

Israel is our friend.  Ukraine is the enemy of our enemy.  There's a difference.


Iraq was never a friend and you supported multi trillion dollar expenditures on that endeavor.

so BS on your newly invented rule to rationalize your hypocrisy.

 

I will say it again.   No president since WW2 has sided with autocratic invaders in Europe.   None.  Until now.    And his rhetoric matches the lies being told my Russian state media.   And Boilerman is 100% ok with that.

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