Bad Democrats and bad Republicans. According to Boilerman and me.

The fact of the matter is each of your examples of 'bad Republicans' has a true counterpoint with a bad Democrat.  But that wasn't your agenda....to really look at bad Republicans and bad Democrats.  It was simply to cherry pick things Boiler has said about 'some' Democrats and then pivot to your Republican smear....that you assert is oh so much more serious.

It's a common propaganda technique and logical fallacy....called a false equivalence.  That’s not on Boiler.  That’s on you.  So how did you select Boiler's examples?  Are they the only 'bad Democrats' he's identified?  Are they the only examples of Bad Democrats discussed here?  Of course not.   It's just an easy but dishonest way for you to throw in your own scary Republican examples...and then declare victory.

Let's look at some of these half-truths and then see if we can identify a similar 'bad Democrat'….starting with your very first assertion:

1.  The leading Republican candidate for governor in Michigan who turned in nominating petitions that had thousands of fraudulent signatures.

This is half-truth #1.  The propagandist is leading you to believe that the Republican candidate (Former Detroit Police Chief James Craig) committed fraud.  He's a bad Republican!  This is a smear.  The truth is that 5 Republican Candidates for Governor all had a serious issue with fraudulent signatures.  That's because they were all swindled by the same signature collection gathering company that faked these signatures.  Use of 3rd party signature collection is very common in elections….them committing fraud and getting the candidates disqualified is not common.  

If you imply that a Republican candidate committed fraud and is a ‘Bad’ person then wouldn’t it be most important to know if the candidate purposely submitted invalid signatures? 

STATE OF MICHIGAN BUREAU OF ELECTIONS LANSING

“At this point, the Bureau does not have reason to believe that any specific candidates or campaigns were aware of the activities of fraudulent-petition circulators.”  

These candidates and the voters of Michigan are victims of fraud not criminals committing fraud....yet MP attacks the victims to dishonestly further his political agenda.  

Now....if we want to look at Democrats and REAL election fraud....Look no further than Ozzy Myers.

PHILADELPHIA – United States Attorney Jennifer Arbittier Williams announced today that former U.S. Congressman Michael “Ozzie” Myers, 79, of Philadelphia, PA, pleaded guilty today to conspiracy to deprive voters of civil rights, bribery, obstruction of justice, falsification of voting records, and conspiring to illegally vote in a federal election for orchestrating schemes to fraudulently stuff the ballot boxes for specific Democratic candidates in the 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 Pennsylvania elections.  Now HE was a BAD Democrat and a Bad Person.  The Republican former Chief of Police of Detroit...not so much.  .

TO BE CONTINUED....Next up....Insurectionist Arrested!

Ah, I see the party that claims the 2020 election in Michigan was stolen because of fraud by Democrats without any evidence doesn't vet their contracted signature collector nor do they even bother to do a rudimentary check of their work before they submitt it.

The courts that have heard these candidates' arguments that it isn't their fault so they shouldn't be removed from the ballot unpersuasive.

Can you imagine the stories on Fox News and the rest of the right wing media if a bunch of Democrat gubanotral candidates got removed from the ballot for fraudulent signatures? They would bleet the story for days and then continue to go back to it for months citing it as proof Democrats rig elections in Michigan just like Trump said.

Ah...more Democrat victim blaming.  I imagine you must claim rape victims 'ask for it' too.  But I said I would point out half-truths.  If you don't think leaving out the fact that the candidates  were not aware of the fraud being committed against them and the people of Michigan makes this a half-truth, then I can't explain it to you.  I don't have any crayons.

Of course I also said I would point out true Democrat counterpoints to the dishonest propoganda the OP displayed.  I see you didn't comment on my example of a recent 'Bad Democrat' as it relates to election fraud.  You know....the Democrat who actually got convicted for stuffing ballot boxes for 6 years

😂 The only thing these guys are victims of is their own incompetence. If you hire a contractor to do to a task of some type you are responsible for the contractor's work. Some basic vetting during the bidding process and then a due diligence check before the signatures were turned in would have prevented this from happening.  The good news is Michigan Republicans can vote for the guy that was just arrested for participating in the January 6th sedition. Openly commiting crimes without remorse seems to be a big plus when you run as a Republican.

So you're saying that focusing on stupid, unrelated stories and trying to make them into political issues is kind of a dipshit move, right? Like Boilerman does, right?

I couldn't agree more!

That was the entire point of my post.

Oh, I see.   The old 'It's her own damn fault she was raped' response.  "She was stupid to date that guy without investigating him first' .  Typical blame the victim when it suits your agenda response.  And again, I'm merely pointing out how the OP offerred a half-truth as an example of a 'Republican Bad'.  The clear implication was the Republicans committed fraud when they did not.  But you just can't bring yourself to admit that, can you?  While it's true the 5 disqualified candidates made a mistake trusting the company they hired, an attempt to spin that into election fraud against those candidates is kind of dispicable....Or are you ok with blaming rape victims for their 'mistakes' too whenever it might support your political agenda?

When someone does something careless, negligent, or stupid, and there are consequences, does that mean that someone is a "victim"? In Charles Land, I guess it does!--if that someone is a Republican.

I laughed out loud when I read that Charles compared Republicans who committed election fraud to rape victims---immediately after railing against false equivalence arguments!

Conservitards--you can't make this shit up!

(Oh, and Charles appears to have picked up that standard conservitard meme that having an "agenda" is a terrible terrible terrible horrible awful thing--no self-respecting Republican would ever have an agenda! Gosh sakes, no!!!!!)

There you go again.  The Republican candidates did not commit any election fraud.  Fraud was committed by a company that collects signatures.  The candidates were in fact victims of the criminal behavior of this company.  See how the half-truth of the OP actually worked on the half-wit Kevin?   Some people are really susceptible to this kind of propaganda. Weak minded folks like Kevin for example.

Of course there were consequences for hiring the company that ripped them off and comitted the actual fraud.  These candidates were disqualified and won't be on the ballot.  But what we don't do in America is turn around and imply these candidates actually committed a crime they didn't commit.  At least honest people don't do that.  I guess that leaves Kevin out.

It's really pretty easy to take any crime from Rape to Theft to Domestic abuse and find some way to blame the victim.  Oh....you left your door unlocked?  Oh, you didn't know the guy you went out with?  Oh you talked back to your husband?  Oh you hired the wrong company to collect signatures?  You're guilty too!  So says the ass wipe Kevin. 

Let's take his example "When someone does something careless, negligent, or stupid, and there are consequences, does that mean that someone is a 'victim'? " What about the woman who goes to a bar, gets stinking drunk and leaves with a man who rapes her.  In Kevin's sick world that criminal rapist is not the  criminal.  Let's just blame the woman who was 'careless, negligent or stupid!  

And what part of  "....the Bureau does not have reason to believe that any specific candidates or campaigns were aware of the activities of fraudulent-petition circulators.” didn't you understand?  Of course I'm sure you understood....but you just don't give a shit who you lie about as long as your pea-brain tells you it advances your cause.  What a horrible excuse for a human you are.  

This idiot false equivalence argument, a beloved tactic of Charles', doesn't make any sense. Election fraud isn't the same as rape--what a bizarrely stupid fucking comparison to make.

Claiming that the RepubliQ morons who hired the fraudulent signature collecting company were "jest innercent victims" is assuming that they didn't know what would happen. That's a dubious claim at best. And even if they were completely unaware of what would happen, they had a standard to adhere to. If you hire someone to do a job, and that person fails to do it properly, and people are affected as a result, the onus is on YOU to fix it. Saying. "Well, those guys I hired fucked up, not me, so that absolves me of all blame" is, is, what's the proper term...

It's vintage Charles.

More victim blaming.  Of course I never said rape is the same as election fraud.  I used an analogy to demonstrate how blaming the victim of a crime is wrong.  I understand how that might confuse you.  You know what an analogy is, right?  It's "a comparison of two otherwise unlike things based on resemblance of a particular aspect "...In this case the 'aspect' is your rush to brand a long time Republican public servant as a criminal when in fact his campaign was victimized by the real criminals.  Maybe it's just your hatred of the police surfacing. 

The fact is there was criminal behavior.  But not by the Republican candidates. This is clearly indicated in the direct quote I provided from the Michigan Board of Elections which you conveniently ignore.  To imply otherwise simply shows a lack of ethics.  Of course we wouldn't expect anything less than a complete lack of ethics from little Libtard Kevie-poo.  Is there any doubt based on his actions that he’d blame a rape victim too if he thought it would advance his smear campaigns?