Once again, the imbeciles of the left have been exposed for what and who they are.
Once again, the imbeciles of the left have been exposed for what and who they are.
Tom, Doc and Don are the worst kind of socialists. They believe in socialism but only when it is reserved for the largest corporations and Billionaires. The Amazon deal with New York was 3 billion for 25,000 jobs. Which works out to $120,000 per job. The big caveat is that those jobs were to be produced over ten years at the rate of 2,500 jobs per year. What happens if Amazon's staffing needs change after year one? NY could end up paying as much as $1.2 million per job depending on how the deal is structured. It is hard to know the exact details because Amazon insisted on keeping the details confidential.
According to Forbes, the NY region is already producing 28 times the 2,500 a year new jobs the Amazon deal would create. So, why did Amazon choose NY when so many Red Southern States were willing to give even larger socialist handouts to Amazon? Amazon needs employees that can do complex coding. The educational system in the South is unable to produce and provide these types of employees. The point being, NY was not desperate for jobs but Amazon was desperate to get access to a highly educated and highly specialized workforce. There was no reason to give negative tax rate Amazon more taxpayer money.
The reason Amazon had to look outside of Seattle in the first place is because of the problems they created there. Nobody of lower or middle-class income can afford housing anymore largely because of the influx of Amazon employees over the last decade. They have one of the worst homeless problems in the country because of it. When Seattle tried to force Amazon to pay some of the cost of the problems they were creating they screamed and threatened to take their ball and go home.
None of these rose-colored projections like the one Don cited considered all the new costs created by Amazon. New York already has an affordable housing crisis. Where was all the money going to come from to create new affordable housing? To upgrade the infrastructure? Hint, it wasn't coming from Amazon.
Oh, and the next time Don, Tom or Doc try and tell you we can't have universal healthcare like the rest of the civilized world because it would be socialism remind them how they wanted the taxpayers to pay for a private helipad for the richest man in the country.
Couple of success stories from Mark’s green deal
california spent $77 billion on a high speed train to nowhere.
NYC is upgrading apartments with LED lighting at a cost of $2,000 per apartment. Multiply that by the number of homes in the country & you get some huge costs, that nobody can explain how to pay for.
Originally posted by: tom
Couple of success stories from Mark’s green deal
california spent $77 billion on a high speed train to nowhere.
NYC is upgrading apartments with LED lighting at a cost of $2,000 per apartment. Multiply that by the number of homes in the country & you get some huge costs, that nobody can explain how to pay for.
You are guilty of changing the topic, Tom. If you want to talk about Bernie Sanders, the Democratic candidates or even the Amazon deal, I will be more than happy to.
The Forbes story says the jobs are created in the NYC region, which includes the tri-state area. Big difference.
The tax tax benefits were based on Amazon achieves the staffing goals. This fact is in all the news media.
Again Mark’s numbers are wrong.
Not included in the job count was all the additional economic activity generated by a project of this size.
At at end of the day the city was achieving a return of 900%.
I did not change the subject as you were the one touting sanders green projects.
Mark- don't ever call me a socialist. I am not that stupid. Secondly, if you want universal healthcare, then have everyone covered pay their fair share. Got that?
Mark writes: "Tom, Doc and Don are the worst kind of socialists."
Poor old DonDiego rejects the allegation and rejects the alligator ! ! !
With specific regard to the NYC/Amazon issue, . . . DonDiego neither endorses nor opposes any "deal" and neither supports nor opposes any "projections" pertaining to the projected Amazon 2nd Headquarters exercise.
DonDiego has no interest in the success/failure of Amazon* and most especially in the success/failure of New York City** and its environs.
He just tries to provide information provided by folks who make such economic predictions so the interested LasVegasAdvisor reader can make up his own mind as to the merits/deficiencies of the exercise.
*DonDiego rarely deals with Amazon unless they offer specific item(s) which are difficult to procure otherwise.
**DonDiego finds himself in NYC occasionally. He has never had any particularly unpleasant experience there.
Oh, for the record the term "socialism" does not apply to anything which "DonDiego believes in".
And, in fact, it doesn't apply to the Amazon/NYC "deal".
Socialism: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
Ref: Merriam-Webster
