Bill for student-loan cancellations comes in -- nearly $3,100 per household

Originally posted by: Mark

The loans, contracts, already had language in them that forgives the loans after a period of yeas.

 

Public Service is 10 years and then the regular loans were 20 or 25 years depending on when you took them out.  

 

During the Trump administration, Trump intentionally breeched these contracts.

 

 1. They shut down the portal where you register your non-profit work which you were required to do every year meaning new people in couldn't sign-up at all and people that were already enrolled couldn't get the credit they were due for each year they worked. 

 

2. When people completed their obligations to the goverment as spelled out in the contract Trump refused to honor the contract. 

 

So, Tom how do you fix the problem Trump created by having the United States Goverment default on their contractural obligations?

 

 


I've already tried to educate stupid Tom that the loan forgiveness he so heart-rendingly bitches and whines about is simply the Biden administration fulfilling the government's contractual obligations that the Trump administration welshed on. He seems immune to this basic education.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I've already tried to educate stupid Tom that the loan forgiveness he so heart-rendingly bitches and whines about is simply the Biden administration fulfilling the government's contractual obligations that the Trump administration welshed on. He seems immune to this basic education.


Yup, my wife benefitted from the program and had her loans forgiven for the over decade long work she did teaching at low income schools.  My Stafford Loans were forgiven over two decades ago with my work in low income schools. It was part of our loan contracts back when we got them.  

 

This whole thread is just another feeble attempt to give Biden crap for following through on something that should have already been done.  

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

If your mortgage and car loans are contracts with the government, yes.

 

If the language of your mortgage and car loan contracts allows it, yes.

 

You see how that works, stupid Tom?


No loans including student loans have a clause that allows the government to cancel it - stupid Kevin 

 

if someone thinks their student loan requirements were fulfilled go to court

Originally posted by: tom

No loans including student loans have a clause that allows the government to cancel it - stupid Kevin 

 

if someone thinks their student loan requirements were fulfilled go to court


Your statement is 100 percent false. The student loan contracts in question did indeed have a forgiveness clause 

 

One should not need to go to court to enforce a contract with the government. When Trump was thrown out of office, this was no longer a problem.

 

How many times do we have to hold your hand and explain this to you?


Originally posted by: tom

No loans including student loans have a clause that allows the government to cancel it - stupid Kevin 

 

if someone thinks their student loan requirements were fulfilled go to court


Yes, they do. Your debt is cancled in 10, 20 or 25 years depending on what type of loan you had. Trump tried to cheat people using the same ploy he used on the contracters he regurally refused to pay. Not many people working in public service or other low paying jobs have the cash to sue the Federal Goverment.

 

At bare minimum you would  probably need 75k in liquid assets.  Futhermore, you don't get the money back when you win your suit.  So unless your debt is huge, even if you sue, you will be out more money than you win.

 

If you really want knowledge Tom, all you have to do is read that link I posted.  It will tell you, with citations, even after some people filed suit and won their cases Trump refused to pay.  

 

Tom, what is your remedy when you file suit against the US government and then the US government refuses to pay the judgement after loosing their case? 

Originally posted by: tom

No loans including student loans have a clause that allows the government to cancel it - stupid Kevin 

 

if someone thinks their student loan requirements were fulfilled go to court


This comes from the Federal Student Aid website:

"Under the Teacher Loan Forgiveness (TLF) Program, if you teach full time for five complete and consecutive academic years in a low-income school or educational service agency, and meet other qualifications, you may be eligible for forgiveness of up to $17,500 on your Direct Subsidized and Unsubsidized Loans and your Subsidized and Unsubsidized Federal Stafford Loans."

 

As I stated above, I had my Stafford Loan forgiven over 20 years ago, and my wife's was forgiven last year.  Both of them were under 15k, but better than nothing.  Mine loan was specfic in that it would be forgiven after 5 years of teaching in a low income school.  It's why I went for that specific loan. 

 

Here's the site if you are interested.  https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/teacher

 

 

Originally posted by: Edso

This comes from the Federal Student Aid website:

"Under the Teacher Loan Forgiveness (TLF) Program, if you teach full time for five complete and consecutive academic years in a low-income school or educational service agency, and meet other qualifications, you may be eligible for forgiveness of up to $17,500 on your Direct Subsidized and Unsubsidized Loans and your Subsidized and Unsubsidized Federal Stafford Loans."

 

As I stated above, I had my Stafford Loan forgiven over 20 years ago, and my wife's was forgiven last year.  Both of them were under 15k, but better than nothing.  Mine loan was specfic in that it would be forgiven after 5 years of teaching in a low income school.  It's why I went for that specific loan. 

 

Here's the site if you are interested.  https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/teacher

 

 


Tom doesn't want to be educated because the facts make his positions look foolish.

Originally posted by: Mark

Tom doesn't want to be educated because the facts make his positions look foolish.


IDK, but it seems like some of these guys think the government is forgiving 150K student loans of people just sitting back and waiting for them to be forgiven.  It's not our fault that many of us jumped on the Stafford Loan knowing we were going to get some of it forgiven over time for teaching.  My loans weren't very high and I did pay on them until they were forgiven after my 5 years of teaching.  My wife and I paid off a good portion of her loan(s) until she reached the 10 years of teaching in a low income school for hers.  

But yet the courts just put a stop in this.  

Originally posted by: tom

But yet the courts just put a stop in this.  


Nonsense. A federal court issued a temporary injunction agianst Biden's plan for additional student debt relief.

 

If you translate from stupidTomspeak, what he should have said was "A court imposed a delay on an expansion of student debt relief."

 

What's happening is that Republican lawmakers in seven states are desperate to stop Biden from implementing his student debt relief program, so they're suing--on the incredibly stupid premise that forgiving federal loans hurts their states. The current Nazi Supreme Court shares the same goals, however.

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