The Blockbuster Video energy plan

Who's shooting for 100% solar/wind?   Agressive targets put us close to only 30%....which is about where the rest of the world is or will be shortly.    Places like canada get 2/3 from renewable energy despite the sun not shining all the time.    Defies gravity, doesn't it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_production_from_renewable_sources

As long as you have people like Louie Gohmert calling the shots on energy in our country we will be doomed to chase job killing fossil fuels instead of job creating Green energy.    

Even 30% would require huge amounts of land that is not available. 

Due to the the stupidity of the democrats the met area doesn’t have access to enough natural gas & they will be closing Indian Point nuclear 

Whats your source for land ?   Is it the same one that told you the Green New Deal costs 92 trillion?

Tom has not done any research on the amount of land that would be required for 30% of the country's energy to be generated via solar. He just uses his gut.

For residential use, solar panels can be installed on roofs. Yes, the sun doesn't always shine. But battery technology has evolved, so that whatever power is generated but not immediately used can be stored at low cost. And of course, such houses would still be plugged into the existing grid.

And metro NYC is a poor example for the amount of vacant land available. Power can be and is transmitted over long distances. There is PLENTY of empty land in the US, and guess what--much of it is in the sunny Southwest. For example, the Primm solar complex, south of Vegas, when completed, will generate enough power to serve the needs of 250,000 people. And it covers about five square miles of previously empty and unused land.

Due to the stupidity of Republicans, we're still burning fossil fuels when we don't need to, but simple economics will eventually decide the issue. I'd like to see renewable energy come into common use because it's more socially and ecologically responsible, but I'll settle for "cheaper." Trump's desperate desire to pander to his "base" is extending the dying era of fossil fuels, but he and they will soon be irrelevant.

"And metro NYC is a poor example for the amount of vacant land available"

NYC metro is a great example as it is a population center of of 25 million people.  The Northeast has a population of 55 million.  How about all the other population centers in the country?

The Primm complex takes 5 square miles.  Extrapolate that calculation for 55 million people, you need hundreds of square miles of land.  Much of the land in the US is either urban or farmland.  It isn't feasable.

And lets not forget the other liberal fantasy of electric cars, which will increase the demand for electricity way above the present demands.

Even when Kevin has some reasonable on-topic discussion points, he cannot resist inserting insults to this party or that person or whatever. 

It so spoils what you are trying to convey, Kevin.  Your points can be made and supported without doing that, and in fact you would likely be taken seriously more often.

Rural land and windfarms go together like peas and carrots....and farmers get paid a shitload of money to lease space to wind turbines ( About 10k/year for each one).   Like the Fowler complex here in Indiana.

Green Energy doesn't just clean the environment, it creates jobs and gets money into the hands of the middle class.    

(Actual photo of the infeasable rural wind project Tom cites with his expert scientific analysis.)

I don't give a rat's rectum who takes me seriously or not, and Tom attacked Democrats for stopping his access to natural gas or something. So I responded that Republicans have been slowing down the process of transition to renewable energy because a) fossil fuel companies write them big checks to do so and b) Trump feels the need to pander to his base, which is supposedly made up of struggling coal miners etc. etc.

The Republicans are frequently the targets of my anger because they have behaved deplorably in the last few decades--greedy, irresponsible, party before country, and now, actively treasonous. People die when politicians make poor decisions. Why shouldn't I, or anyone else, point it out when Republicans do that?

Childish illogic. If electric cars are a "liberal fantasy," then Tom's next statement that they will increase the demand for electricity doesn't make much sense, does it? If they only exist in liberals' minds, then they won't increase the demand for electricity, now, will they?

And does Tom actually know the annual electricity use of an electric or hybrid car? No? I thought not.

Yes, a complex of solar grids large enough to supply the needs of 55 million people (I don't know why he uses that exact number, but I'll roll with it) would require hundreds of square miles of land. Has Tom ever driven through Nevada? West Texas? North Dakota? There are vast tracts of land in the West--tens of millions of acres--that aren't being used for anything. The vast majority of land west of the 100th meridian isn't arable, mainly because of lack of access to water. Much of it isn't even suitable for grazing.

Also, like I said, domestic solar can be installed on unused "land"--rooftops. That could even be done in NYC. It wouldn't replace the existing power grid, but it would augment it.

The next step is a diatribe about the trillions of defenseless birds that fly into and are diced up by the whirling blades. Because, as we all know, Republicans are concerned about the ecosystem.

You'd think Republicans would be on board with all this, given their constant bleating about JOBZ JOBZ JOBZ. Clem Cornpone is going to get pretty fat from all this. And Tucky Buckford won't have to work underground, extracting coal from the muck. Seems like The Base should be pretty happy about all this Green New Deal liberal nonsense.

Not to mention that Henry Hater and his wife Hallie will be better able to scream themselves hoarse at Trump's hate rallies (or whoever holds them when Trump goes to prison) with the air being not as polluted.