Border Patrol dump hundreds of illegal immigrants straight onto the streets of San Diego

Originally posted by: David Miller

     I am not confused. Call them what you want, they are here illegally and they were dumped. There is a legal immigration process that is being bypassed by the DemocRats as they "recruit" new DemocRat voters in these illegals. What are these illegals called in the other sources provided, Edso?  Are these other sources "confused" also?


So they're here illegally because the shortbus crowd says so? LOL.

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Border control is more than keeping people out.  It has a lot to do with stopping the influx of illegal/deadly drugs for dispersion all over the US.  Of course, it seems the mules are more clever than we are, very creative in how they package the stuff, get it moved along, etc.  But I'm all for that aspect of border control.

 

Candy


That's an entire separate issue, since the drugs cross the border via otherwise legitimate means, i.e. freight shipments and such. Railing about migrants (and stupidly calling them "illegals") because they supposedly contribute to the drug trade is just ridiculous.

 

Completely choking off that drug trade would require far stricter and more lengthy border freight inspections. Texas briefly tried that earlier this year. What was the cost, $10 million a day? And people were boiling mad.

 

The best way to combat opioid deaths is to make NarCan readily available. The schoolmarm set says that doing so is "permissive." I prefer to regard it as acceeding to reality.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That's an entire separate issue, since the drugs cross the border via otherwise legitimate means, i.e. freight shipments and such. Railing about migrants (and stupidly calling them "illegals") because they supposedly contribute to the drug trade is just ridiculous.

 

Completely choking off that drug trade would require far stricter and more lengthy border freight inspections. Texas briefly tried that earlier this year. What was the cost, $10 million a day? And people were boiling mad.

 

The best way to combat opioid deaths is to make NarCan readily available. The schoolmarm set says that doing so is "permissive." I prefer to regard it as acceeding to reality.


I know the difference, but both are issues of "border control."  Knowing which issue is being addressed, financed, etc. seems prudent in a discussion.  That's all.

 

Now and then we receive, surprisingly, NarCan along with meds we pick up from the pharmacy.  Pharmacist says it appears to originate from insurance company policy.  Some of our meds are opioids, so that's fine, probably a good thing, though never have needed it. 

 

Candy

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

I know the difference, but both are issues of "border control."  Knowing which issue is being addressed, financed, etc. seems prudent in a discussion.  That's all.

 

Now and then we receive, surprisingly, NarCan along with meds we pick up from the pharmacy.  Pharmacist says it appears to originate from insurance company policy.  Some of our meds are opioids, so that's fine, probably a good thing, though never have needed it. 

 

Candy


No, it's not an issue of border control. We can fortify our southern border with land mines, machine gun nests, armed drones, laser sights, and a mile-wide moat filled with alligators. We can shoot anybody who even asks to cross the border.

 

Obviously, that would be not only extreme but counterproductive. We need a relatively porous border, because both trade and migration require it. Turning it into the Cold War East/West Germany border would cost far more than the costs of illegal drug importation and illegal migration. That's a pragmatic and practical decision. But of course, for those driven by race hatred, allowing ANY of those feelthy Messkins across the border is unacceptable.

 

You can look at it the other way around, too. Any relatively easy-to-cross border has its associated costs; heck, so does our northern border. But it also has its associated benefits. Look at the Canadian border. We could seize and interrogate every Canadian trying to enter the country, and doubtless intercept that many more criminals, terrorists, and associated nogoodniks, but would that be worth the damage to trade and relations? If we went all Cold War on Mexico, would the benefits be worth the costs?


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

No, it's not an issue of border control. We can fortify our southern border with land mines, machine gun nests, armed drones, laser sights, and a mile-wide moat filled with alligators. We can shoot anybody who even asks to cross the border.

 

Obviously, that would be not only extreme but counterproductive. We need a relatively porous border, because both trade and migration require it. Turning it into the Cold War East/West Germany border would cost far more than the costs of illegal drug importation and illegal migration. That's a pragmatic and practical decision. But of course, for those driven by race hatred, allowing ANY of those feelthy Messkins across the border is unacceptable.

 

You can look at it the other way around, too. Any relatively easy-to-cross border has its associated costs; heck, so does our northern border. But it also has its associated benefits. Look at the Canadian border. We could seize and interrogate every Canadian trying to enter the country, and doubtless intercept that many more criminals, terrorists, and associated nogoodniks, but would that be worth the damage to trade and relations? If we went all Cold War on Mexico, would the benefits be worth the costs?


 So much bullshit...

Originally posted by: David Miller

 So much bullshit...


What's bullshit is you calling law-abiding migrants "illegals."

 

Racist fuck.

Once kevin & his ilk start playing the race card they have lost the argument as shown by some of the facts below.

 

What's bullshit is you calling law-abiding migrants "illegals."

 

25% of the illegals have disappeared; so they are breaking the law.

 

A man who arrived in New York City two months ago from Venezuela has randomly attacked at least three strangers and two cops, and gotten arrested – and released – six times on 14 different charges, police and sources said. Daniel Hernandez Martinez, 29, arrived on June 27 and allegedly committed his first crime the following day.

 

https://www.tiktok.com/discover/Illegal-immigrant-arrested-14-times-in-New-York-City

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/illegal-immigrant-charged-murder-released-new-york-police-paperwork-delay

 

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_8b43a57c-05ee-11ec-bc50-0b2d2ccceec5.html

 

The US Border Patrol reported almost 100 encounters of terrorosts in the last fiscal year, up from 16 the previous year.

We need a relatively porous border, because both trade and migration require it.

 

We need a border where goods can be processed not where millions of people can wander around the country; like they are in NYC.

 

While Mexicans can walk across the border the reverse is not true . From Loit & Murguia Mexican immigration attorneys

illegal immigration is a felony under Mexican law. In fact, Article 123 of the General Law of Population mandates that “a penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five hundred thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.”

 

Turning it into the Cold War East/West Germany border would cost far more than the costs of illegal drug importation and illegal migration.

 

The cost of illegals in NYC alone is $4b per year.  Over 100,000 people per year die of drug overdoses. The cost of the lost lives is hundreds of billions of year.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/crisis-kensington-drug-users-flood-streets-lawless-philadelphia-neighborhood

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/illegal-immigrant-charged-murder-released-new-york-police-paperwork-delay

 

We could seize and interrogate every Canadian trying to enter the country, and doubtless intercept that many more criminals, terrorists, and associated nogoodniks

 

We already check everyone coming in from Canada & send back those without proper documentation.

Idiot "justification" of racism. How is drug use "the cost of illegals"? Prove the connection, idiot Tom.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Idiot "justification" of racism. How is drug use "the cost of illegals"? Prove the connection, idiot Tom.


As usual when stupid kevin is losing he plays the race card

 

From NPR - 

Mexican drug cartels have found a new source of labor to backpack drugs into the United States: illegal immigrants.

 

Federal agents, prosecutors, defense attorneys and migrants themselves say that traffickers have begun recruiting undocumented immigrants at the border, both voluntarily and forcibly.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/us/migrant-smuggling-evolution.html

 

The numbers don't lie. In 2018, cartels made roughly $500 million a year smuggling migrants into the United States. Today, this source of income has ballooned into a $13 BILLION industry.

 

Stupid kevin

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