Once again, we see the same people ignoring the reality of now 3 attempts on the Presidents life. Everyone of the attempts were done by people who have been brainwashed by the rhetoric of the corrupt DemocRATs, the lying media and the radical left. You will NEVER convince me that these 3 groups are not solely responsible.
Originally posted by: Edso
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"Carrying out the agenda of roughly half of the voting public?"
I highly doubt that half the voting public want Trump or any politician shot.
This is how that comment came across to me, whether that is what you intended. Maybe I am the only person on here that interpreted that comment that way.
I don't think that that is what she meant. It's a matter of slightly inaccurate punctuation and phrasing.
If I can slightly restate what she said: "I mean, how damned grandiose does one have to be to believe that they are 'saving the country' and carrying out the agenda of (roughly) half the voting public?"
Candy is opining that the shooter believed he was carrying out their wishes. I haven't seen any evidence of that thought in his mind. He may have believed that what he was doing was for the good of the nation. In fact, I would bet on it, especially since he couldn't reasonably have expected to survive the attempt, successful or not.
I would have used "full of self-importance" or "arrogant" instead of "grandiose," because the latter means "ostentatious; fancy" and he was anything but that--no rants on social media, etc. Candy meant that it was out of bounds for any one person to take the fate of the nation in his hands. I think that we all can agree on that. I also think that Miller aside, we can all agree that his political affiliation and state of origin are irrelevant.
I get up in everyone's business about language, grammar, syntax, punctuation, and vocabulary, but when those measures are inaccurate, misunderstandings occur. And I think I've posted before about how a poor translation of "mokusatsu" cost hundreds of thousands of lives. Words matter; the precision thereof also matters.
Originally posted by: David Miller
Once again, we see the same people ignoring the reality of now 3 attempts on the Presidents life. Everyone of the attempts were done by people who have been brainwashed by the rhetoric of the corrupt DemocRATs, the lying media and the radical left. You will NEVER convince me that these 3 groups are not solely responsible.
Since you don't believe that yourself--youre just spewing propaganda--we have no interest in trying to convince you of anything. And if "those groups" were "responsible" for what three people did, how come there haven't been hundreds of such attempts, given that said groups together number tens of millions of people?
And exactly how is any given group responsible for what its members do? We're not blaming you for the Epstein or Trump rapes, even though you're a charter member of the Rape Group.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Since you don't believe that yourself--youre just spewing propaganda--we have no interest in trying to convince you of anything. And if "those groups" were "responsible" for what three people did, how come there haven't been hundreds of such attempts, given that said groups together number tens of millions of people?
And exactly how is any given group responsible for what its members do? We're not blaming you for the Epstein or Trump rapes, even though you're a charter member of the Rape Group.
Robby Starbuck · So to recap, Cole Allen showed up to kill Trump AND top Trump Admin officials. A little about him: - Had a BlueSky account filled with leftist posts - Part of far left group called "Wide Awakes" - Attended No Kings protests - Donated to Kamala Harris - Wrote anti-Christian stuff The Democrats own this violence. Disgusting.
Originally posted by: Edso
"Carrying out the agenda of roughly half of the voting public?"
I highly doubt that half the voting public want Trump or any politician shot.
This is how that comment came across to me, whether that is what you intended. Maybe I am the only person on here that interpreted that comment that way.
No, no, no, Edso. That comment was meant to be in the mind of the nut job, any nut job in such a situation, himself thinking that he is carrying out an agenda of ...somebody. As in "OK the pres is hated so I'm gonna take him out for you and you all will like me and appreciate me for this."
Did you not notice the word "grandiose", as in grandiose thinking...as in a wannabe hero?
Candy
Well stated, Kevin. Exactly what I meant. Thanks.
Though I do think grandiose could fit.
Candy
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
Agreed. And whether he and/or any of the other one-hit-wonders are lunatic fringe or highly educated or pseudo genius, or all of the above, don't they pretty much NOT represent the grand majority of folks who favor and disfavor one or the other politician of note for whatever reason?
I mean, how damned grandiose does one have to be to believe they are 'saving the country', carrying out the agenda of [roughly] half of the voting public?
Nut jobs. Aren't they usually? Criminals wishing to be heroes?
JMHO.
Candy
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Yes, people who resort to such measures to right perceived wrongs are not in the majority by any means. That's obvious.
Indulge me, however, in a thought experiment. Were the literally hundreds of people who tried to kill Hitler "nut jobs" and "criminals wishing to be heroes"? That's certainly the way they were described in the Nazi press, and by Hitler as he chortled, watching them being slowly strangled with piano wire.
Josef Stalin killed twenty million of his own people. If Trotsky or someone else had killed him in, say, 1927, would they have been a nut job, a criminal, or a hero, for preventing that horror?
Your daughter attends a school near an Iranian military base. Or your son works on a Venezuelan fishing boat. Trump has killed them. If you had a time machine, would you go back and stop him, by any means necessary? Would wishing you could make you a nut job and a criminal?
Trump survived this latest attempt and will go on raping, looting, and killing. Everyone who dies at his hand henceforth will die because this latest assassin botched his attempt. If--i almost want to say when--someone you love is murdered by Trump, won't you bemoan his failure and consider him a hero for trying? Or will you continue to regard him as a criminal and a nutjob?
If Washington DC dissolves in a radioactive fireball sent courtesy of the man whose father Trump killed...
I think you get the point. Trump is in that select historical company of evil mass murderers, and while I still think he should be removed via the democratic process, that process is slow, and many, many more people will die every single day he sits in the Oval Office and spews his demented schemes.
Sort of skews the morality of it all, hm?
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Yes, people who resort to such measures to right perceived wrongs are not in the majority by any means. That's obvious.
Indulge me, however, in a thought experiment. Were the literally hundreds of people who tried to kill Hitler "nut jobs" and "criminals wishing to be heroes"? That's certainly the way they were described in the Nazi press, and by Hitler as he chortled, watching them being slowly strangled with piano wire.
Josef Stalin killed twenty million of his own people. If Trotsky or someone else had killed him in, say, 1927, would they have been a nut job, a criminal, or a hero, for preventing that horror?
Your daughter attends a school near an Iranian military base. Or your son works on a Venezuelan fishing boat. Trump has killed them. If you had a time machine, would you go back and stop him, by any means necessary? Would wishing you could make you a nut job and a criminal?
Trump survived this latest attempt and will go on raping, looting, and killing. Everyone who dies at his hand henceforth will die because this latest assassin botched his attempt. If--i almost want to say when--someone you love is murdered by Trump, won't you bemoan his failure and consider him a hero for trying? Or will you continue to regard him as a criminal and a nutjob?
If Washington DC dissolves in a radioactive fireball sent courtesy of the man whose father Trump killed...
I think you get the point. Trump is in that select historical company of evil mass murderers, and while I still think he should be removed via the democratic process, that process is slow, and many, many more people will die every single day he sits in the Oval Office and spews his demented schemes.
Sort of skews the morality of it all, hm?
Here is your DemocRAT morality -- 
Originally posted by: David Miller
Here is your DemocRAT morality --
More from the DemocRATs -- 
Spoken like a true Nazi, David! Heil Trumpf!
