Charlie Kirk - Kevin Lewis

   I am still amazed and sickened by the reaction of Kevin Lewis concerning the murder of Charlie Kirk. Everyone here knows that I despise Lewis for the filth, lies, sickening rhetoric and verbal assaults he has expoused here in the Advisor Forums for years - but his comments about the murder of Charlie Kirk is a new low, even for Lewis. What he has expoused is not "free speech" - it is hate speech. He and everyone who thinks like him are what is wrong in America. 

Article in my newspaper (real one, paper, delivered to front porch), some business/school personnel being fired, terminated from jobs for postings on their social media their opinions of Charlie Kirk and what happened. 

 

From the limited descriptions, it sounds like knee-jerk statements made, careless remarks in the 'heat' of first hearings of what transpired, like people often do.  School/company spokespeople saying stuff like "we maintain high standards" of what their employees express publicly, etc. as justification for the actions taken.   

 

No doubt some will be contacting their attorneys...both sides.

 

But that's why I stay off of facebook.  Too easy to get caught up in other peoples' rhetoric.

 

Candy

Sure is hard for me to fathom people being fired for saying Kirk was a racist, misogynist, homophobe and pointing out his willingness to offer up other people's school children as tributes to sacrifice for the second amendment. 

 

Telling the truth about smeone shouldn't get you fired and it is patriotic to stand up and ask why someone that made a living promoting bigotry and division should be given honors like the flag being lowered.

Edited on Sep 15, 2025 5:24am

Hasn't the conservative right been telling us for years that there is no such thing as hate speech or hate crimes?


Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Hasn't the conservative right been telling us for years that there is no such thing as hate speech or hate crimes?


They have.

Originally posted by: David Miller

   Everyone here knows that I despise Lewis for the filth, lies, sickening rhetoric and verbal assaults he has expoused here in the Advisor Forums for years - but his comments about the murder of Charlie Kirk is a new low, even for Lewis. What he has expoused is not "free speech" - it is hate speech. He and everyone who thinks like him are what is wrong in America. 


Is this hate speech?

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Is this hate speech?


 Here are some of the comments Lewis posted - (1) -It's a joyful day for everyone who isn't a MAGA fuck. , (2)-He was killed because he was an asshole who wanted to see an increase in shootings., (3)- In short, he's an evil MAGA parrot. My thoughts are with the shooter, who must be very disappointed that Kirk survived. (4)-Kirk wanted people to die so that he and his kind could continue to strut around with guns. What happened to him--well, I don't believe in karma, but it was certainly what he deserved.(5)-And the shooter? My thoughts are with him (I presume, male) because he had the courage to delete a profoundly evil person who has already done great damage to this country and taken many lives.,(6)-I already explained why he reaped what he sowed. Unlike you and the orange asshole who is your master, though, I don't believe in "retribution." But on the rare occasion when it does happen...it's not necessarily a bad thing. The man preached hate and advocated for gun violence.,(7)-Despite your asswipe comments, I'm not trying to "walk back" anything I've said. I stand by it. Kirk got EXACTLY what he asked for.(8)-So far from apologizing for the views I'm entitled to (and yes, Kirk probably would agree on that), I'll reiterate them: I'm very disappointed that that rifleman missed Trump. And I'm not sorry that that rifleman didn't miss Kirk., (9)-I lean toward Kirk's death being karma more than a tragedy. 

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Is this hate speech?


Is your post hate speech?

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Is your post hate speech?


   Anyone with a functioning brain can discern the difference in what Lewis has posted - Here are some of the comments Lewis posted - (1) -It's a joyful day for everyone who isn't a MAGA fuck. , (2)-He was killed because he was an asshole who wanted to see an increase in shootings., (3)- In short, he's an evil MAGA parrot. My thoughts are with the shooter, who must be very disappointed that Kirk survived. (4)-Kirk wanted people to die so that he and his kind could continue to strut around with guns. What happened to him--well, I don't believe in karma, but it was certainly what he deserved.(5)-And the shooter? My thoughts are with him (I presume, male) because he had the courage to delete a profoundly evil person who has already done great damage to this country and taken many lives.,(6)-I already explained why he reaped what he sowed. Unlike you and the orange asshole who is your master, though, I don't believe in "retribution." But on the rare occasion when it does happen...it's not necessarily a bad thing. The man preached hate and advocated for gun violence.,(7)-Despite your asswipe comments, I'm not trying to "walk back" anything I've said. I stand by it. Kirk got EXACTLY what he asked for.(8)-So far from apologizing for the views I'm entitled to (and yes, Kirk probably would agree on that), I'll reiterate them: I'm very disappointed that that rifleman missed Trump. And I'm not sorry that that rifleman didn't miss Kirk., (9)-I lean toward Kirk's death being karma more than a tragedy.- and what I posted -I am still amazed and sickened by the reaction of Kevin Lewis concerning the murder of Charlie Kirk. Everyone here knows that I despise Lewis for the filth, lies, sickening rhetoric and verbal assaults he has expoused here in the Advisor Forums for years - but his comments about the murder of Charlie Kirk is a new low, even for Lewis. What he has expoused is not "free speech" - it is hate speech. He and everyone who thinks like him are what is wrong in America.. His rhetoric is there for all to see and read - my post is the actual truth of who he is and what he has and continues to do.

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

Is this hate speech?


  Lewis has hiden behind the assurance that there will be no accountability for his outrageous behavior. Free speech does not obviate consequences for irresponsible speech.

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