CNN reports that a majority of Americans support voter ID laws.

A non issue and nothing prevents people from getting one

 

A 2008 American University survey of 2,000 registered voters in Indiana, Maryland and Mississippi found that only 1.2 percent lacked a valid ID, equating to roughly 100,000 registered voters.

 

A 2008 American University survey of 2,000 registered voters in Indiana, Maryland and Mississippi found that only 1.2 percent lacked a valid ID, equating to roughly 100,000 registered voters.

 

Another study of affidavits signed by voters at the polls in Michigan found that of the people who showed up to vote in the 2016 election, about 0.6 percent of voters, or 28,000 people, did not have a photo ID

 

Another survey, the Survey of the Performance of American Elections (SPAE), focused on registered voters rather than the total adult citizen population. It asked about more specific forms of government-issued ID like military IDs and IDs from state colleges.

 

About 96.6 percent had at least one photo ID in the form of a driver’s license, passport, public assistance ID, military ID, Native American ID, ID from an in-state college, firearm license, or an ID from a federal, state or local agency, while 3.4 percent either did not have one of those forms of ID, did not provide a response or did not know.

 

Originally posted by: Brent Kline

If you have an ID to register, then why would you not have it to vote ?  Why do people just  want the issue, but never want to solve amything.  The vast majority of Americans want voter ID.  I hope it gets done.  Also while we are at it lets get casino style servalence in these count rooms.  Let us end all these bullshit controveries that are designed to devide us.


For instance, my state requires two of these to prove residency: A credit card, a utility bill  or a bank statement with your name on it or a pre-printed paystub. 

 

 

If you are younger or a renter, there is a very good chance you don't have two of those. Most employers don't print pay stubs anymore. If you are a renter, still living with parents or in a roommate situation, you likely don't have utility bills in your name. It is also likely you don't have a CC or use a conventional bank. 

Federal banking laws require a govt id to open an account

Federal banking laws require banks to verify the identity of customers by collecting certain information, including a government-issued form of identification. This requirement is part of the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) and the USA PATRIOT Act, which mandate financial institutions to establish a Customer Identification Program (CIP). The CIP must include procedures for verifying the identity of each customer to the extent reasonable and practicable, and it must maintain records of the information used to verify a person's identity.

 

How many actual instances of voter fraud have occurred that make voter id a solution to an actual problem as opposed to one made up by the insurrection pussies?

 

answer:  a tiny fraction of the number of people with no ID that Tom is ok with denying their vote.

Edited on Feb 4, 2026 3:16pm

Originally posted by: tom

A non issue and nothing prevents people from getting one

 

A 2008 American University survey of 2,000 registered voters in Indiana, Maryland and Mississippi found that only 1.2 percent lacked a valid ID, equating to roughly 100,000 registered voters.

 

A 2008 American University survey of 2,000 registered voters in Indiana, Maryland and Mississippi found that only 1.2 percent lacked a valid ID, equating to roughly 100,000 registered voters.

 

Another study of affidavits signed by voters at the polls in Michigan found that of the people who showed up to vote in the 2016 election, about 0.6 percent of voters, or 28,000 people, did not have a photo ID

 

Another survey, the Survey of the Performance of American Elections (SPAE), focused on registered voters rather than the total adult citizen population. It asked about more specific forms of government-issued ID like military IDs and IDs from state colleges.

 

About 96.6 percent had at least one photo ID in the form of a driver’s license, passport, public assistance ID, military ID, Native American ID, ID from an in-state college, firearm license, or an ID from a federal, state or local agency, while 3.4 percent either did not have one of those forms of ID, did not provide a response or did not know.

 


In your proposed plan would there be a system where people could vote by mail? What about people who are either on vacation or working out of state? 

Tom, 2008 was 18 years ago and most states didn't require a real id back then. It was relatively easy to get an ID back then.

 

Most of those alternatives you mentioned are no longer accepted as proof of you being who you say you are. 

Edited on Feb 4, 2026 4:27pm
Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

In your proposed plan would there be a system where people could vote by mail? What about people who are either on vacation or working out of state? 


What I find appalling about Tom's screed (aside from what I find appalling about Tom himself) is his casual dismissal of the prospect of "only" a few hundred thousand people being disenfranchised.

 

I find that unacceptable. I find it unacceptable if ONE registered voter is prevented from casting a ballot.

 

The idea and practice of people having to queue up for hours to vote at a single physical location is antiquated. We in Oregon know better.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

What I find appalling about Tom's screed (aside from what I find appalling about Tom himself) is his casual dismissal of the prospect of "only" a few hundred thousand people being disenfranchised.

 

I find that unacceptable. I find it unacceptable if ONE registered voter is prevented from casting a ballot.

 

The idea and practice of people having to queue up for hours to vote at a single physical location is antiquated. We in Oregon know better.


I am a bit younger than most posters here (born in 1982) I have voted in every presidential election since I turned 18. I have never gone to an actual voting booth. In my first three elections I requested an absentee ballot. (First two from Hawaii 3rd from Washington) After that Washington State went to full mail ballots. 

 

The concept of having to go stand in a queue at a voting booth is foreign to me. 

 

I like having the time to look through the ballot, read the initiatives and referendums, research the candidates for the smaller offices etc. 

 

I like not having to request time off work to vote or hope I don't get hosed by traffic and not make it to the polls on time. 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

I am a bit younger than most posters here (born in 1982) I have voted in every presidential election since I turned 18. I have never gone to an actual voting booth. In my first three elections I requested an absentee ballot. (First two from Hawaii 3rd from Washington) After that Washington State went to full mail ballots. 

 

The concept of having to go stand in a queue at a voting booth is foreign to me. 

 

I like having the time to look through the ballot, read the initiatives and referendums, research the candidates for the smaller offices etc. 

 

I like not having to request time off work to vote or hope I don't get hosed by traffic and not make it to the polls on time. 


Well, sure. The idea of SHOW ME YER ID TO PROVE YER NOT AN ILLEGUL ALEEN is one that simply doesn't exist in the more advanced states. The process of vetting and registration has already taken place when it's time to vote.

 

It was egregiously evil when Tay-ucks-ass shut down every polling station in central Houston except for one AND forbade drop-off or mail balloting. How many of the four million people who were required to cast their votes there weren't able to?

 

And then we have situations where people collect ballots from voters who are unable or find it difficult to get to a drop box...and they get accused of "ballot harvesting"---a stupid MAGA propaganda bleat.

 

All these issues are caused by using an obsolete voting system.

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