CNN reports that a majority of Americans support voter ID laws.

I like having the time to look through the ballot, read the initiatives and referendums, research the candidates for the smaller offices etc.

 

If one doesn't know who they are voting for by the time they get to the voting booth, they haven't been payng attention.  Info on various initiatives is readily available on the internet, mailings etc. 

 

I like not having to request time off work to vote or hope I don't get hosed by traffic and not make it to the polls on time.

 

Hours for voting are in the 6am to 9pm range, plenty of time to find the time to vote.

 

As far as the voter id issue being unconstitutional, why hasn't anybody from the multiple states that have voter id challenged this in the courts?  Maybe because the legal experts know it is legal.

It's real that over 70% of states (36) already  have some form of voter ID laws in place.  The 'polls' (FWIW) indicate that somewhere between 70 and 85% of Americans support voter ID laws for states ( it is a state issue). It's another long-standing argument between right and left of course.

 

For those who don't support voter ID laws, is it because you're convinced that thousands / millions of potential voters would be disenfranchized by such laws? That the elderly, disabled, minorities, students , etc votes are negated by these laws? That Jim Crow issues have been reborn with these laws? What evidence can you show? Or have you just aligned with a long-standing stance by the left?  

 

I'd agree that there should be  special assistance processes ( including minimal costs) for those who might have difficulty ( elderly, disbled, students) obtaining the paperwork / documents necessary to satisfy ID requirements of a given state.  Those processes could be legislated into state laws. Nobody eligible should be at risk of losing their vote.

 

I support voter ID laws but agree that some voter groups require multifaceted assistance to participate in the voting process. Mail-in ballots don't bother me.

 

Edited on Feb 5, 2026 6:40am
Originally posted by: tom

I like having the time to look through the ballot, read the initiatives and referendums, research the candidates for the smaller offices etc.

 

If one doesn't know who they are voting for by the time they get to the voting booth, they haven't been payng attention.  Info on various initiatives is readily available on the internet, mailings etc. 

 

I like not having to request time off work to vote or hope I don't get hosed by traffic and not make it to the polls on time.

 

Hours for voting are in the 6am to 9pm range, plenty of time to find the time to vote.

 

As far as the voter id issue being unconstitutional, why hasn't anybody from the multiple states that have voter id challenged this in the courts?  Maybe because the legal experts know it is legal.


This is the problem of nationalizing elections. MAGA folks with no proof, who believe a con man that claimed an election he lost was stolen, have now decided that I can't use a mail-in ballot in Colorado. We like our mail-in ballots; there is no problem with fraud impacting the outcome of any election, and Tina Peters went to jail trying to prove otherwise. She was convicted in a red city, a red county, by a Republican DA and a Republican judge.

 

I don't have to justify my preference to some MAGA idiot in Texas. You want to go to the polls, fine, I'm voting from the comfort of my home, double checking ballots questions with a bit of last-minute research as I fill it out. Then taking a 15-minute walk with my wife and dog on a beautiful fall afternoon to my local library to put it in the secure lock box. Enjoying the fall colors along the way and greeting other folks enjoying their day.

 

 

Originally posted by: tom

 

 

 .....As far as the voter id issue being unconstitutional, why hasn't anybody from the multiple states that have voter id challenged this in the courts?  Maybe because the legal experts know it is legal.


You are erecting a strawman.

 

I never said it was unconstitutional for a state to require ID. 

 

I never even said I would oppose a state requiring ID. 

 

I said that a federal law requiring the states to do so would be unconstitutional.

 

 


Originally posted by: Nines

It's real that over 70% of states (36) already  have some form of voter ID laws in place.  The 'polls' (FWIW) indicate that somewhere between 70 and 85% of Americans support voter ID laws for states ( it is a state issue). It's another long-standing argument between right and left of course.

 

For those who don't support voter ID laws, is it because you're convinced that thousands / millions of potential voters would be disenfranchized by such laws? That the elderly, disabled, minorities, students , etc votes are negated by these laws? That Jim Crow issues have been reborn with these laws? What evidence can you show? Or have you just aligned with a long-standing stance by the left?  

 

I'd agree that there should be  special assistance processes ( including minimal costs) for those who might have difficulty ( elderly, disbled, students) obtaining the paperwork / documents necessary to satisfy ID requirements of a given state.  Those processes could be legislated into state laws. Nobody eligible should be at risk of losing their vote.

 

I support voter ID laws but agree that some voter groups require multifaceted assistance to participate in the voting process. Mail-in ballots don't bother me.

 


I don't object to voter ID laws per se. I just feel that absent a constitutional amendment this is a state issue. 

 

 

Originally posted by: tom

I like having the time to look through the ballot, read the initiatives and referendums, research the candidates for the smaller offices etc.

 

If one doesn't know who they are voting for by the time they get to the voting booth, they haven't been payng attention.  Info on various initiatives is readily available on the internet, mailings etc. 

 

I like not having to request time off work to vote or hope I don't get hosed by traffic and not make it to the polls on time.

 

Hours for voting are in the 6am to 9pm range, plenty of time to find the time to vote.

 

As far as the voter id issue being unconstitutional, why hasn't anybody from the multiple states that have voter id challenged this in the courts?  Maybe because the legal experts know it is legal.


It's blatantly unconstitutional for the federal government to tell states what their policies regarding elections should be.

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

You are erecting a strawman.

 

I never said it was unconstitutional for a state to require ID. 

 

I never even said I would oppose a state requiring ID. 

 

I said that a federal law requiring the states to do so would be unconstitutional.

 

 


For items 1 & 2 I wasn't referring to you.  Once the federal govt started putting in voter protections, that opened the door for voter id. If we are going to allow mail in votes, proper safeguards must be put in place such as votes being in by election day.  Ballots after election day are invalid.  Votes must be completed within 24 hours.  This used to be done until a few years ago.  

 

 

Originally posted by: Nines

It's real that over 70% of states (36) already  have some form of voter ID laws in place.  The 'polls' (FWIW) indicate that somewhere between 70 and 85% of Americans support voter ID laws for states ( it is a state issue). It's another long-standing argument between right and left of course.

 

For those who don't support voter ID laws, is it because you're convinced that thousands / millions of potential voters would be disenfranchized by such laws? That the elderly, disabled, minorities, students , etc votes are negated by these laws? That Jim Crow issues have been reborn with these laws? What evidence can you show? Or have you just aligned with a long-standing stance by the left?  

 

I'd agree that there should be  special assistance processes ( including minimal costs) for those who might have difficulty ( elderly, disbled, students) obtaining the paperwork / documents necessary to satisfy ID requirements of a given state.  Those processes could be legislated into state laws. Nobody eligible should be at risk of losing their vote.

 

I support voter ID laws but agree that some voter groups require multifaceted assistance to participate in the voting process. Mail-in ballots don't bother me.

 


It would be silly for you and MAGA to deny that requiring ID to VOTE (AGAIN, AS OPPOSED TO REQUIRING ID TO REGISTER) disenfranchises a certain number of people. The only real question is, how many. Because stupid Tom and his kind have no brains and no empathy, they pooh-pooh those difficulties and the injustice they cause.

 

It's real simple the way it is now. The signature of registered voters is what validates their ballots. I'd like someone in the MAGA asshole fascist gang to explain why that system needs to be changed. 

 

Of course, the "why" is voter suppression. They can't quite say that outright--not yet, anyway--so they devolve to conspiracy theories about them kabillions of fraudulent ballots that are cast by Democrat space aliens in every election.

 

Absentee, drop-off, and mail-in ballots don't require voters to show ID to anyone.

 

And parenthetically, I don't give a donkey's fart if 88.7489% of the populace approves of something that disenfranchises even one person.

And I care if lax voting rules allows 1 illegal voter.  

 

Signatures don't mean a thing.  Stupid kevin thinks poll workers are handwriting experts. 

 

And liberals can't find any examples of voter suppression

 

Absentee, drop-off, and mail-in ballots don't require voters to show ID to anyone.

 

Another kevin lie as people have to supply the DL or govt id number on the ballot

 

Edited on Feb 5, 2026 7:22am
Originally posted by: tom

And I care if lax voting rules allows 1 illegal voter


How many legal votes are you willing to restrict to prevent that one illegal vote?

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