Congratulations To Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez For Her Upset Victory

 

 

From Chapter Two of Article 1 of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (1917):

"3. Bearing in mind as its fundamental problem the abolition of the exploitation of men by men, the entire abolition of the division of the people into classes, the suppression of exploiters, the establishment of a socialist society, and the victory of socialism in all lands, the Third All-Russian Congress of Soviets of Workers', Soldiers', and Peasants' Deputies further resolves:

(a) For the purpose of attaining the socialization of land, all private property in land is abolished, and the entire land is declared to be national property and is to be apportioned among agriculturists without compensation of the former owners, to the measure of each one's ability to till it."

 . . . (the remaining subparagraphs addressed all other resources including factories, mills, mines etc., etc., etc. would now be national property.

 

 From Chapter One, Article 1 of the Constitution of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (1936):

"The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is a socialist state of workers and peasants."

 

 

From Chapter One of the Constitution of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (1977):

"The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is a socialist state of the whole people, expressing the will and interests of the workers, peasants, and intelligentsia, the working people of all the nations and nationalities of the country."

 

 

Hmm, . . . at least they were consistent about the political/economic nature of their society: socialism.

 

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: Mark

Bob, I don't deny there are problems with Obama Care, in fact, I complained about them often in the old forum. However, it is better than the old system as people with preexisting conditions can buy insurance. Before, it wasn't available to people with pre-existing conditions no matter how much they were willing to pay. The biggest problem with Obama Care is that it retained private for-profit insurance companies rather than eliminating them.  

 

Now we have to look at the Republican plan.  During the 2016 election, Trump promised on day one he was going to pass an Obama Care replacement that would cover everyone, cost patients less money, cost the government less money and would cover pre-existing conditions.  After six months of wrangling, the best Trump and the Republicans could come up with was something that would cover 30 million fewer people than Obamacare, wouldn't cover pre-existing conditions, would cost people more for policies and would cost the government more.  In other words, it was an absolute failure.

 

The really ironic thing is that the Republicans managed to do something that Obama was never able to do. They made Obama Care popular.  Once the people saw how awful the actual Republican plan was, Obama Care got really popular. Now all those Republicans that ran on repeal and replace are uninterested in doing anything on health care other than sabotaging our current system and driving the costs up for everyone. 


Trump can only sign (or veto) legislation that is passed by congress. Republicans in congress have done a lousy job of changing or replacing the ACA. However, "...something that would cover 30 million fewer people" is  false. A vast majority of those people are not covered because they CHOOSE not to be covered. They are no longer force to buy it or face fines by the IRS for not buying it. 

 

The people who said the ACA would result in lower costs for everyone are the same people now saying the changes will drive up the costs for everyone. You were wrong then, but you're right now? Never mind...you still think you were right then. 

The “people” Bob refers to are the  companies you buy insurance from.

 

So, Bob,  insurance premiums will be going down in 2019 due to fewer younger, healthy people in the system - right?  You should spend 30 seconds googling to see what “the people” are saying  before you answer.

Edited on Jul 26, 2018 5:05am

Oh, I see because the Soviet Union conflated socialism and communism Don can too.  Since El Salvador is going capitalist, does that mean the United States is just like El Salvador? Is the United States headed for greatness just like El Salvador?

 

If you want to analyze the Soviet Union, you must consider that Marx saw places like unindustrialized Russia as unsuitable for a Communist economic system. He had a very clear progression Capitalism evolved into Socialism and Socialism evolved into Communism.  Just because you dress a troglodyte in a suit it doesn’t make him a businessman. 

Edited on Jul 26, 2018 9:15am

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

The “people” Bob refers to are the  companies you buy insurance from.

 

So, Bob,  insurance premiums will be going down in 2019 due to fewer younger, healthy people in the system - right?  You should spend 30 seconds googling to see what “the people” are saying  before you answer.


What I'm saying is, leftists, leftist politicians and leftist media pundits are often wrong. Given their past history, it is more likely than not that they're wrong again. 

Ah - HAH !

 

So Mark is prejudiced against troglodytes ! ! !

 

Troglodytes

So Ms. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez gave an interview on something called "The Daily Show" recently.

 

The host ask her how she would pay for her agenda:

 

"This is an excellent, excellent question.

I sat down with a Nobel Prize economist last week — I can’t believe I can say that, it’s really weird — But one of the things that we saw is, if people pay their fair share, if corporations and the ultra wealthy — for example, as Warren Buffett likes to say, if he pays as much as his secretary paid, 15 percent tax rate, if corporations paid — if we reverse the tax bill, raised our corporate tax rate to 28 percent . . . if we do those two things and also close some of those loopholes, that’s $2 trillion right there."

 

Then she proposed a plan for a renewable energy economy:

"One of the wide estimates is that it’s going to take $3 trillion to $4 trillion to transition us to 100 percent renewable economy.

So we’ve got $2 trillion from folks paying their fair share, which they weren’t paying before the Trump tax bill,” she said. “They weren’t paying that before the Trump tax bill. If we get people to pay their fair share, that’s $2 trillion in 10 years.

Now if we implement a carbon tax on top of that, so that we can transition and financially incentivize people away from fossil fuels, if we implement a carbon tax — that’s an additional amount, a large amount of revenue that we can have."

 

She continued:

"Then the last key, which is extremely extremely important is re-prioritization. Just last year we gave the military a $700 billion budget increase, which they didn’t even ask for.

They’re like, 'We don’t want another fighter jet!' They’re like, 'Don’t give us another nuclear bomb,' you know?

That is a decision that requires political and moral courage from both parts of the aisle.” 

 

Ref: Daily Caller

 

 

 . . . so there's some idea of her plans for the Country.

 

For those unfamiliar with political jabber, here is what she is proposing:

" TAX TAX, SPEND, SPEND "

 

 

Senator Everett Dirksen is reported have quipped about government spending in the 1960s: "A billion here, a billion there, . . . and pretty soon you're talking about real money."

 

Now it's trillions.

 

 

This is where one can watch the interview:

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1022852142682570752

For those unfamiliar with political jabber, here is what she is proposing:

" TAX TAX, SPEND, SPEND "

 

 

As opposed to tax cut, tax cut, tax cut, spend, spend, spend like the current regime has actually implemented. 

 

When wages fall and government revenues decline drastically because of these policies you implemented you purpose to tax cut, tax cut, and tax cut to decrease government revenue and wages even further.  

 

I'd dare say raising revenue before you actually spend is the fiscally conservative position. 

 

As reported today by CNN :

"The US economy roared into high gear in the Spring, growing at the fastest pace in almost four years.

Second-quarter economic growth came in at an annual rate of 4.1%, the government said Friday.  That was the best showing since the third quarter of 2014."

 

Unfortunately poor old DonDiego does not possess the powers to cut taxes and raise spending which Mark suggests he has.  

 

For the record DonDiego's preference would be to cut Government expenditures AND then reduce taxes as such reduction in spending would permit.  So far Local, State, and the Federal Governments have paid little attention to DonDiego's preferences.

 

 

 

 

This woman is like a parrot, she just spits out words she is told to say, without any thought if they are correct.

 

One would think the interviewer's first question would have been - which Nobel prize winner? 

 

The top 1 % already contribute 48% of the federal income tax.  Isn't that fair enough?

 

The US reduced it's carbon footprint in the past year, while China, France, Spain & Canada for example increased theirs.

 

The military reuested that amount & it is being used to improved the readiness & training for the US military units.

 

 

Edited on Jul 28, 2018 5:48am
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