Congress spent $7.5 billion on electric vehicle chargers two years ago. How many have been built? One!

Originally posted by: Edso

Not an EV fan myself. 


Well, casting no aspersions on you, but many people simply don't like change...in fact, that's the dictionary definition of a conservative. So much of the opposition to EVs is that they make people feel "weird." And it IS weird to abandon the enforced habit of draining your paycheck into a gas pump.

 

I think that the enthusiasm for EVs will wax and wane with gas prices. Right now, we're not getting gouged quite as much. But when they inevitably start gunning for $5 a gallon again?

 

Oh, and gas prices on California's North Coast were among the highest in the nation last year, cracking $6/gallon, so maybe they have a strong incentive to buy EVs.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

When Tom doesnt provide a source you know he's pulling shit out of his ass.

 

Hertz got burned by the price reductions in EV's which suddenly made their balance sheet go down.     

EV's continue to get more affordable with better range - two things you are on record saying would not happen.  Hertz's problem is the result of progress.  Only Tom can think thats a bad thing.

 

And  by "cutting production"  you mean record production.   

https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-insights/q4-2023-ev-sales/


Hertz said expensive repairs helped inform its decision to downsize its EV fleet. The move warns potential EV owners about "hidden" costs. Repairs for EVs can cost more than those for gas-powered cars.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/hertz-dumping-20000-evs-is-a-warning-to-electric-car-owners-everywhere/ar-AA1mSpng

 

From Consumer Reports

 

The survey reveals that, on average, EVs from the past three model years had 79 percent more problems than conventional cars. Based on owner responses on more than 330,000 vehicles

 

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/electric-vehicles-are-less-reliable-than-conventional-cars-

 

 

a1047214174/#:~:text=Electric%20vehicle%20owners%20continue%20to%20report%20far%20more,had%2079%20percent%20more%20problems%20than%20conventional%20cars.

 

So much for range.  Sometimes the range is zero.

 

https://news.yahoo.com/electric-car-owners-confront-harsh-130352017.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

 

Andrew Leech, managing director at Fleet Evolution, said that it was common for manufacturers to “wilfully overstate” EV range figures to attract buyers.

 

https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US1079G91652&p=electric+cars+range+is+overstated

 

And factories are being shut down.

 

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/26/23934172/ford-12-billion-ev-investment-postpone-q3-earnings

https://www.thedrive.com/news/gm-is-stalling-ev-production-because-demand-is-falling-off

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/car-dealers-to-biden-evs-aren-t-selling/ar-AA1kGMT4#:~:text=Dealers%20have%20a%20103-day%20supply%20of%20EVs%20compared,about%20twice%20as%20long%20as%20for%20gas-powered%20cars.

 

And then there are wind power cancellations

 

https://apnews.com/article/offshore-wind-orsted-cancellation-biden-new-jersey-3f2ff7c9832210ce862f6e7179fae439

None of Tom's shit is accurate.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

None of Tom's shit is accurate.


None of the links to sources?  

 

Yet Kevin doesn't drive an EV either he has told us numerous times.  


Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

None of the links to sources?  

 

Yet Kevin doesn't drive an EV either he has told us numerous times.  


No, I mentioned that once, and you've repeated it numerous times--in order to make some stupid point. I don't know what that point is.

 

I drive my cars until the end of their useful life. My current vehicle has probably 100,000 miles left. My next one will be an EV.

 

So why do you keep saying that I can't be in favor of the development of EVs unless I'm actually driving one at the moment? That's a dumb thing to say.

So what happens when you can't access electricity?  Or the weather interfers?  Check out Oakbrook Il Teslas stranded.  I would love a Hybrid when it's time for a new car.  I'll consider an EV when the infrastructure is up to handling the load.   

Originally posted by: Susan Johnson

So what happens when you can't access electricity?  Or the weather interfers?  Check out Oakbrook Il Teslas stranded.  I would love a Hybrid when it's time for a new car.  I'll consider an EV when the infrastructure is up to handling the load.   


It depends on where you are. In some states, there is already a robust EV grid. In others, not so much. If it's a fossil-fuel-run red state, there will have been active efforts to discourage the installation of EV chargers, to keep everybody dependent on the gas pumps. In Washington, Oregon, and California, there are public EV chargers everywhere.

 

What we do need to do nationally is install them at interstate rest stops.

To bad they don't work.

 

How are ev chargers doing this month in the midwest?

 

From JD Power

Two years ago, 14.5% of respondents said they’d been unable to charge at a public station. Now it’s 21.4%.

 

From Business Insider

Electric car charging stations have major reliability issues, a new study found. More than 25% of public DC charging stations in California's Bay Area were unusable, according to researchers.

 

A study of public electric-vehicle stations in California's Bay Area found that only 72.5% of chargers were operational.

 

A survey of 1,290 electric-car drivers by a California government agency found that 44% of owners saw operability or payment issues as barriers to charging

Originally posted by: tom

To bad they don't work.

 

How are ev chargers doing this month in the midwest?

 

From JD Power

Two years ago, 14.5% of respondents said they’d been unable to charge at a public station. Now it’s 21.4%.

 

From Business Insider

Electric car charging stations have major reliability issues, a new study found. More than 25% of public DC charging stations in California's Bay Area were unusable, according to researchers.

 

A study of public electric-vehicle stations in California's Bay Area found that only 72.5% of chargers were operational.

 

A survey of 1,290 electric-car drivers by a California government agency found that 44% of owners saw operability or payment issues as barriers to charging


  Let's not forget the penchant for California exercising rolling blackouts because of shortages of electrical power. 

Originally posted by: Susan Johnson

So what happens when you can't access electricity?  Or the weather interfers?  Check out Oakbrook Il Teslas stranded.  I would love a Hybrid when it's time for a new car.  I'll consider an EV when the infrastructure is up to handling the load.   


My youngest brother has a hybrid and he seems to like it just fine.  

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