Congress spent $7.5 billion on electric vehicle chargers two years ago. How many have been built? One!

Originally posted by: Edso

My youngest brother has a hybrid and he seems to like it just fine.  


One of the joys of owning an electric car , (and let's not talk about the expense involved with replacing the car battery )-- EVERGREEN PARK, Ill. (CBS) -- Some Tesla drivers learned the hard way about how cold weather affects battery life. At a charging station at The Evergreen Marketplace, at 9200 S. Western Ave. in Evergreen Park, Teslas were lined up early Monday morning. Some of the Teslas' batteries died in Chicago's sub-zero temperatures, leaving the cars sitting askew and immobile in the parking lot. Driver said some of the charging stations weren't working, and those that were working took a lot longer than usual to charge. "I've been here for over five hours at this point, and I still have not gotten to charge my car," said Tesla driver Brandon Welbourne. "A charge that should take 45 minutes is taking two hours." Welbourne said he saw at least ten cars towed. -- https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tesla-owners-run-into-battery-charging-trouble-in-chicago-s-bitter-cold/ar-AA1n2NqW

Originally posted by: David Miller

  Let's not forget the penchant for California exercising rolling blackouts because of shortages of electrical power. 


That's extremely rare. Happens far more often in Tay-ucks-ass, actually.

Originally posted by: tom

To bad they don't work.

 

How are ev chargers doing this month in the midwest?

 

From JD Power

Two years ago, 14.5% of respondents said they’d been unable to charge at a public station. Now it’s 21.4%.

 

From Business Insider

Electric car charging stations have major reliability issues, a new study found. More than 25% of public DC charging stations in California's Bay Area were unusable, according to researchers.

 

A study of public electric-vehicle stations in California's Bay Area found that only 72.5% of chargers were operational.

 

A survey of 1,290 electric-car drivers by a California government agency found that 44% of owners saw operability or payment issues as barriers to charging


All that isn't "don't work." There are obviously issues with reliability at this time.

 

But y'know what? If your public charger doesn't work, you can move to the next one three feet away. Or...and this will make your head spin, Tom...charge your car at home.

 

I don't know what stupid point you're making. it's a little bit of a hassle to own an EV right now, but it'll get easier. And in the meantime, you save big bucks.

 

Plus, this is an alien concept to you, Tom, but EVs are good for the environment.

 

I know you're an old conservitard, Tom, so you hate change, but this is the future. Whine as you may.

Originally posted by: Edso

My youngest brother has a hybrid and he seems to like it just fine.  


A hybrid might be the best choice of all right now. If you have problems with charger accessibility, you can put gas in for the time being.

 

My brother has a Chevy hybrid and he has only had two occasions in the three years he's owned it when he couldn't find a charger.


Originally posted by: David Miller

One of the joys of owning an electric car , (and let's not talk about the expense involved with replacing the car battery )-- EVERGREEN PARK, Ill. (CBS) -- Some Tesla drivers learned the hard way about how cold weather affects battery life. At a charging station at The Evergreen Marketplace, at 9200 S. Western Ave. in Evergreen Park, Teslas were lined up early Monday morning. Some of the Teslas' batteries died in Chicago's sub-zero temperatures, leaving the cars sitting askew and immobile in the parking lot. Driver said some of the charging stations weren't working, and those that were working took a lot longer than usual to charge. "I've been here for over five hours at this point, and I still have not gotten to charge my car," said Tesla driver Brandon Welbourne. "A charge that should take 45 minutes is taking two hours." Welbourne said he saw at least ten cars towed. -- https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tesla-owners-run-into-battery-charging-trouble-in-chicago-s-bitter-cold/ar-AA1n2NqW


A hybrid uses gas and electric.  My brother can shift over to electric and go about 40 miles, I believe, and then can shift back to gas, which charges his electric battery and after so many miles can go back to electric.  He doesn't use a EV charging station at all. 

 

You post using my quote has shit to do with what I posted.  It was more related to the poster that was going to purchase a hybrid as his next car.  

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That's extremely rare. Happens far more often in Tay-ucks-ass, actually.


https://paylesspower.com/blog/the-most-at-risk-states-for-power-outages/  -- almost one-quarter of 2022 power outages occurred in California. This state also came in first for the most power outages overall in the last 20 years: 2,684. Due to a combination of increasing temperatures, droughts, wildfires, a strained power grid, and human error, many Californians face uncertain access to energy.

Originally posted by: Edso

A hybrid uses gas and electric.  My brother can shift over to electric and go about 40 miles, I believe, and then can shift back to gas, which charges his electric battery and after so many miles can go back to electric.  He doesn't use a EV charging station at all. 

 

You post using my quote has shit to do with what I posted.  It was more related to the poster that was going to purchase a hybrid as his next car.  


  In the future I will closely monitor where I make my postings. I was reading your post when I decided to make my post - my post was not meant in any way take away or demean your post. I have no problem with what you posted and I actually have driven and like hybrids. I do not think all electric cars are feasable - and I think a hybrid makes sense but I don't see gas powered vehicles ever going out of favor. If I offended you here, it was not my intention. Mea culpa.

Originally posted by: David Miller

https://paylesspower.com/blog/the-most-at-risk-states-for-power-outages/  -- almost one-quarter of 2022 power outages occurred in California. This state also came in first for the most power outages overall in the last 20 years: 2,684. Due to a combination of increasing temperatures, droughts, wildfires, a strained power grid, and human error, many Californians face uncertain access to energy.


Still, such outages are extremely rare. Your dramatically bolded sentence actually illustrates how rare they are. 130 a year is a low number, considering that most such outages only last a few hours--and considering how many customers are being served.

 

Why did California "come in first"? Because it has a very large population! Lots and lots of customers!

 

The only meaningful statistic would have been "outages per number of customers served." But that wouldn't have been nearly as melodramatic.

Originally posted by: Susan Johnson

So what happens when you can't access electricity?  Or the weather interfers?  Check out Oakbrook Il Teslas stranded.  I would love a Hybrid when it's time for a new car.  I'll consider an EV when the infrastructure is up to handling the load.   


Susan, you can't post here, using such grounded common sense.  You will send Kevin into panic with that.  

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

It depends on where you are. In some states, there is already a robust EV grid. In others, not so much. If it's a fossil-fuel-run red state, there will have been active efforts to discourage the installation of EV chargers, to keep everybody dependent on the gas pumps. In Washington, Oregon, and California, there are public EV chargers everywhere.

 

What we do need to do nationally is install them at interstate rest stops.


Wouldn't that take more "tax revenues" as you commonly tell us? 

 

Then in another section of this forum I see you bitching and crying about the taxes that the Circa winners had to pay.  So which one is it, are you for tax revenues or not?  You seem to flip flop daily like most dems do.  

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