Contingency plans

Let's assume the worst for the moment. Trump wins, the Senate flips, and the House doesn't. We descend into a stinking pit of Trumpian fascism. The Supreme Court stays safely MAGA as the Senate rubber-stamps Trump's new lackeys.

The remaining Democrats in the House and Senate are hunted down and arrested by Trump's goons. State election offices are raided and Democratic voters are identified. Those voters are stripped of citizenship. Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security are canceled, to pay for Trump's tax cuts to zero percent for corporations and billionaires. Trump invites Putin to estanblish military bases on US soil. The mass roundup and execution of Hispanics, including US citizens, begins.

What would you do?

We in Oregon would secede. But maybe you might want to stay and tough it out? Or move to another country? If so, where?

If you say, that's ridiculous, all that could never happen, I say, that's what Germans told themselves in 1934.

(We all know that David would masturbate himself to death, so this question is for the rest of you, who are sane.)

Well the first step would be to flee across the border and request asylum.

There are a ton of Republicans in both houses of Congress that can't stand Trump.     Some say it out loud, some say it behind closed doors.    Jan 6 was enough to make my Senator, Todd Young, say it out loud.    

MAgA lives and dies with Trump....and its stranglehold is losing its grip regardless of the election outcome.

Why all the negativity all the time ?  Why not tout all the positive changes Harris would make, and how she would do it ?  

Great idea, Brent! I look forward to you giving that same advice to David and others on the right.

Unless you're just a phony.

Obviously, this would all be moot if Harris wins...but with about a 50% chance that we get Trump, we all have to be prepared.

In a way, Dems losing the House and the Senate is worse, and the latter is likely. If we regain the House, many of Trump's most stupid and evil plans can be thwarted.

And Brent...yeah, I'd like to think that Harris will bring us sunshine and rainbows and bunnies. But what will she be able to accomplish if the Senate is MAGA-controlled and they refuse to confirm any of her Cabinet appointees or judgeship nominations?

I am all for devided government.  There should not be mob rule.  Both sides should work for the good of all of the country on things both sides can agree on.  The other things the states can work on until a good solution if found.

Unbelievable! I knew eventually we'd agree on something!. I indeed say all those prognosticated events ( particularly in your second paragraph above) are ridiculous. You assign way too much power to Trump , even if he himself may assume that power level in his own mind. By assigning him that level of unbridled power, you inadvertently / covertly and   simultaneously supply him with fuel and support during your attempt to denigrate him through fear tactics. That's what I see in your desperational musings. It's as if the guy is so powerful that traditional governmental check and balance processes don't exist whatsoever anymore. The presence of those processes may not be as evident as in the past, but they're still around ( yeah, even SCOTUS). Your statements above suggest that the three traditional branches of government can all be simultaneously stomped on and overridden by one monstrous guy and his cohort/s. I disagree strongly, and this is all an indication that your disagreements with Trump don't stop with him; you show little faith in the very foundational footings of our republic. He's not that all powerful, even if he and his followers portray him as such; with arguments like you present here you fill his/ their tank. The reality is that he's just another fallible human involved in politics.

 Some of those same constitutional foundations would be employed by you and your seceding Oregonians in order to be successful. Unless, however,  your reference to yet another civil war in some other recent Sink thread is your eventual retribution tactic. Just vote for your gal and await the aftermath; eg don't blow a hypertensive seal and maybe have a bit of faith in the processes. And have some oatmeal whenever possible.

Nines, buddy, you are indeed dimly aware that Trump all by himself would have limited power and wouldn't be able to implement much of his fascist agenda. However, if his slavishly loyal party captures all of the other branches of government (they already have the judiciary), it'll be Project 2025 time.

And those few Republicans that resist Trump? They'll be, at a minimum, hounded out of the party.  Trump says he simply wants to kill them.

Minimize it all you want. You wouldn't be the first to make that mistake 

Tell ya what. I won't minimize it if you won't maximize all the potential outcome absurdities. Maybe use a smaller slingshot, so to speak? And I'm more like a beam of light ( think the Luxor Sky Beam, etc) rather than dim. 

If the R's end up controlling all three branches ( doubtful), you and your ilk will indeed survive ( albeit miserably so for some). Your side  survived that scenario when GW Bush was prez ( for 3- 4 years); and on the flip side all us conservatives survived a D controlled govt. under JFK and Johnson in the 60's; the R's and me also survived the D control trifecta for 2 years '21-'23 recently ( I can show you the scars). This election is not Armageddonish or like some prefabricated death warrant for your side; it's about that pendulum swing thing that naturally occurrs and you routinely deny.

Oatmeal..think about it.