The Current Government Shutdown

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That illegal aliens getting Medicaid bullshit is all the Republipigs have. Illegal aliens can't get Medicaid.


 They can and have, but that is ending - which is why Screwmer is lying about this aspect because without illegals getting Medicade, the corrupt DemocRATs have nothing else to offer illegals to get their vote.

The bottom line is that we have a for-profit-based health insurance scheme in the United States; the subsidies will have to be increased every few years as health insurance companies want a 10% increase in profits year in and year out, just like every other private sector player in the health care chain. 

 

Wages simply can't grow fast enough to keep pace with all these players demanding profit growth year after year.  For those of you who have been here a long time, you know I wasn't happy with Obamacare because it relied on this private insurance scheme rather than a single-payer government-backed system. In fact, I said over and over, that the subsidies will have to be increased as long as we have this system.  A lot of the other lefties here at the time disagreed with me. 

 

 

The bottom line is that if you want to fix healthcare in the US, you have to remove the leeches from the system and the best place to start is the parasitic private insurance companies that are bleeding the system dry.

 

MTG of all people said some really smart things about healthcare today.  

Edited on Oct 7, 2025 2:36pm
Originally posted by: tom

Stupid kevin doesn't know that the 2026 Medicare premiums have been set


Stupid Tom doesn't know that the Big Stupid Bill slashes Medicare funding by 20% and premiums will go up. They have NOT been "set."

 

Stupid Tom.

Originally posted by: David Miller

 They can and have, but that is ending - which is why Screwmer is lying about this aspect because without illegals getting Medicade, the corrupt DemocRATs have nothing else to offer illegals to get their vote.


They can't and don't. Prove your lie, if you can.


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

They can't and don't. Prove your lie, if you can.


  WASHINGTON, D.C. – This week, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released its analysis of the cost to taxpayers of Vice President Kamala Harris’ open border agenda on the Medicaid program. CBO estimates that the Biden-Harris Administration’s open border agenda cost federal and state taxpayers more than $16.2 billion to provide Medicaid-funded emergency services to illegal aliens during the first three years of the Administration. This is a staggering increase of 124 percent compared to the same period under the Trump Administration. This analysis responds to a request from House Budget Committee Chairman Jodey Arrington (R-TX) calling on CBO to produce an analysis of Medicaid spending on emergency services for illegal aliens. The Congressional Budget Office’s analysis confirms that the mass migration of illegal immigrants is costing billions of dollars to Medicaid - a program created to serve the health care needs of the most vulnerable Americans. This is on top of the executive action taken to provide $9 billion in Obamacare to illegal immigrants. -- https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/cbo_on_medicaid_for_illegal_immigrants.pdf

Originally posted by: Mark

The bottom line is that we have a for-profit-based health insurance scheme in the United States; the subsidies will have to be increased every few years as health insurance companies want a 10% increase in profits year in and year out, just like every other private sector player in the health care chain. 

 

Wages simply can't grow fast enough to keep pace with all these players demanding profit growth year after year.  For those of you who have been here a long time, you know I wasn't happy with Obamacare because it relied on this private insurance scheme rather than a single-payer government-backed system. In fact, I said over and over, that the subsidies will have to be increased as long as we have this system.  A lot of the other lefties here at the time disagreed with me. 

 

 

The bottom line is that if you want to fix healthcare in the US, you have to remove the leeches from the system and the best place to start is the parasitic private insurance companies that are bleeding the system dry.

 

MTG of all people said some really smart things about healthcare today.  


Obamacare was instituted because the Republicans have always fiercely resisted single-psyer healthcare. They, together with the extremely powerful healthcare provider lobby, would have made it impossible to pass ANY healthcare legislation. Obamacare was a compromise, and not a very good solution.

 

When you talk about healthcare in the US, you have to realize that the Republicans are against healthcare of any kind, except for the rich. Poor people, minorities, families...they need healthcare more than rich bitches in mansions...and they tend to vote Democratic. So the Republican strategy, which by the way is detailed in Project 2025, is to deprive the lower classes of healthcare and let them die out, thus giving Republicans absolute control of America.

 

We know for a certainty that single-psyer government-run not-for-profit healthcare is the way to go. There are dozens of examples around the world. But we'll never have it as long as the Republicans want us to sicken and die instead.

Originally posted by: David Miller

  WASHINGTON, D.C. – This week, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released its analysis of the cost to taxpayers of Vice President Kamala Harris’ open border agenda on the Medicaid program. CBO estimates that the Biden-Harris Administration’s open border agenda cost federal and state taxpayers more than $16.2 billion to provide Medicaid-funded emergency services to illegal aliens during the first three years of the Administration. This is a staggering increase of 124 percent compared to the same period under the Trump Administration. This analysis responds to a request from House Budget Committee Chairman Jodey Arrington (R-TX) calling on CBO to produce an analysis of Medicaid spending on emergency services for illegal aliens. The Congressional Budget Office’s analysis confirms that the mass migration of illegal immigrants is costing billions of dollars to Medicaid - a program created to serve the health care needs of the most vulnerable Americans. This is on top of the executive action taken to provide $9 billion in Obamacare to illegal immigrants. -- https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/cbo_on_medicaid_for_illegal_immigrants.pdf


Dear Davey Dog, why are you babbling about the Biden administration? Don't you know who's President now? Nonetheless:

 

Harris never had any control of or influence over the border. So, a lie.

 

What a Republican babbled, without proof of any kind, means nothing. Another lie.

 

Medicaid-providrf emergency services aren't the same thing as Medicaid enrollment. None of the ILLEGULS who received such services were enrolled in Medicaid. You have to be either a US citizen or here legally to receive Medicaid. Thus, anyone here illegally isn't eligible. Another lie.

 

Game, set, and match. Go back in your hole.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Dear Davey Dog, why are you babbling about the Biden administration? Don't you know who's President now? Nonetheless:

 

Harris never had any control of or influence over the border. So, a lie.

 

What a Republican babbled, without proof of any kind, means nothing. Another lie.

 

Medicaid-providrf emergency services aren't the same thing as Medicaid enrollment. None of the ILLEGULS who received such services were enrolled in Medicaid. You have to be either a US citizen or here legally to receive Medicaid. Thus, anyone here illegally isn't eligible. Another lie.

 

Game, set, and match. Go back in your hole.


 You are a lying POS. Harris was appointed as the person in charge of the border, and as you have stated, did nothing but look the other way. The current President is in the process of correcting/removing the corrupt governing of your favorite "President" - brain dead Biden. This is how illegals have abused Medicade -“The Congressional Budget Office’s analysis confirms that the mass migration of illegal immigrants is costing billions of dollars to Medicaid - a program created to serve the health care needs of the most vulnerable Americans. This is on top of the executive action taken to provide $9 billion in Obamacare to illegal immigrants. -- Now, go ahead and lie some more....

Originally posted by: David Miller

 You are a lying POS. Harris was appointed as the person in charge of the border, and as you have stated, did nothing but look the other way. The current President is in the process of correcting/removing the corrupt governing of your favorite "President" - brain dead Biden. This is how illegals have abused Medicade -“The Congressional Budget Office’s analysis confirms that the mass migration of illegal immigrants is costing billions of dollars to Medicaid - a program created to serve the health care needs of the most vulnerable Americans. This is on top of the executive action taken to provide $9 billion in Obamacare to illegal immigrants. -- Now, go ahead and lie some more....


Put that lie aside. Put your babble about the Biden administration aside. The budget in question is for 2026, hmm? The TRUMP administration. So if the Turd has an issue with FEELTHY IMMERGENTS getting Medicaid, he can stop it, yes? The Democrats are NOT asking for Medicaid for ILLEGULZ. That's horseshit that the Republipigs are pitching to cover up the fact that they're slashing funding for EVERYONE.

 

Your positions are always whatever it takes to lick Trump's balls, so this non-discussion is over. Please reply with a lie and an insult. End of thread.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Obamacare was instituted because the Republicans have always fiercely resisted single-psyer healthcare. They, together with the extremely powerful healthcare provider lobby, would have made it impossible to pass ANY healthcare legislation. Obamacare was a compromise, and not a very good solution.

 

When you talk about healthcare in the US, you have to realize that the Republicans are against healthcare of any kind, except for the rich. Poor people, minorities, families...they need healthcare more than rich bitches in mansions...and they tend to vote Democratic. So the Republican strategy, which by the way is detailed in Project 2025, is to deprive the lower classes of healthcare and let them die out, thus giving Republicans absolute control of America.

 

We know for a certainty that single-psyer government-run not-for-profit healthcare is the way to go. There are dozens of examples around the world. But we'll never have it as long as the Republicans want us to sicken and die instead.


Republicans are for every able bodied person paying their own way.

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