Thats a lot more than expected. If they are felonies that's some significant prison time. Donny's been a very bad boy.
Thats a lot more than expected. If they are felonies that's some significant prison time. Donny's been a very bad boy.
Originally posted by: Mark
Thats a lot more than expected. If they are felonies that's some significant prison time. Donny's been a very bad boy.
Just like the DemocRat backed, lying media, over hyped Jan 6 bullshit, this too is will go nowhere.
Sure, express train to nowhere.
Originally posted by: David Miller
Just like the DemocRat backed, lying media, over hyped Jan 6 bullshit, this too is will go nowhere.
"This too is will go nowhere."
David is haves dementia.
Do you truly thoughtful Liberals here think this is a valid and just indictment, or is this simply the latest leftist endeavor to 'Get Trump'. Is there any possibility / probability whatsoever that he will be convicted in a fair / just jury trial? I'm fully aware many of you despise / loathe the guy which you're free to do, but is this indictment fair / right? Let's keep it simple and address that particular question. Do you think Trump's defense team will ask for / receive a dismissal of the case simply on the merits? We don't actually know what the specific charges are , do we ( the indictment particulars are sealed)? Is Bragg's case strong enough to wager the Democratic 2024 presidential election on ( I know at least 12 of the 23 member grand jury in NY voted yes on the indictment..that's not in question). Were any statutory campaign finance laws actually broken here? ; if you think so, show me the statute. Or show me the 34 supposed charges list after it's made public and contrast that to the actual statutes. While you're masticating all this, define tyranny for me, por favor.
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I've railed on some of Trump's negatives ( for my personal tastes) in here in the past, but this indictment is in my view just more perpetual political theater engaged to derail him. I believe it's a legal travesty, Trump or not. If Biden, Clinton, or any other opposing party member were in the same position, I'd be questioning this action as well . Is this really the just reason that puts an end to Trump? I think these actions by Bragg and whomever supports those actions represent mine placement in the Democratic party future election landscape. They're going to forget where they placed those mines, imo...and they're going to stumble on them themselves at some point in the not too distant future. I felt strongly enough about this issue to leave my vital Vegas trip planning exercise to comment on it, and I'll speculate that this news is a bit disheartening for the US..all of us ( yes, even you liberals). Anyway, it'll provide some more napalm for your group to drop on Trump ( and/or on me..I don't care).
Do you liberals think your anti-Trump obsessions actually strengthen his status..or not? Curious if you ever consider that possibility at all? Or is he truly just that rotten in your minds? I think you've answered that last one previously..forget I asked. *l* Many of you certainly continue to allocate him an excessive amount of attention, it seems. His multiplicative iniquities have consumed some of ya. How many have you actually persuaded to join your band? Some of you illustrate regularly how powerful/ influential he has been / can be; and you perpetually quiver in your waders that this schlump will end up back in the White House in a couple years. All that is your bidness..carry on..
Back to my comfy conservative bunker. Send money and / or Treasure Island gaming chips...soon.
Charles - do you think Trump's sgnature on this check is a forgery? If not then he is guilty of the same crime his lawyer went to prison for which nobody on the right thought was a witch hunt.
Do you think evidence of criminal activity should be ignored because of someone's political or social status?
"Liberals" didnt indict Trump - A district attourney with a warrant from a judge did. That warrant is only issued if the judge believes there is sufficient cause for the indictment. And a Grand Jury decided there was enough evidence for a trial.
There seems to be a new trend in conservative circles.....Democratic elections only count when they win. And our justice system is only valid so long as it steers clear of them.

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins
Do you truly thoughtful Liberals here think this is a valid and just indictment, or is this simply the latest leftist endeavor to 'Get Trump'. Is there any possibility / probability whatsoever that he will be convicted in a fair / just jury trial? I'm fully aware many of you despise / loathe the guy which you're free to do, but is this indictment fair / right? Let's keep it simple and address that particular question. Do you think Trump's defense team will ask for / receive a dismissal of the case simply on the merits? We don't actually know what the specific charges are , do we ( the indictment particulars are sealed)? Is Bragg's case strong enough to wager the Democratic 2024 presidential election on ( I know at least 12 of the 23 member grand jury in NY voted yes on the indictment..that's not in question). Were any statutory campaign finance laws actually broken here? ; if you think so, show me the statute. Or show me the 34 supposed charges list after it's made public and contrast that to the actual statutes. While you're masticating all this, define tyranny for me, por favor.
.
I've railed on some of Trump's negatives ( for my personal tastes) in here in the past, but this indictment is in my view just more perpetual political theater engaged to derail him. I believe it's a legal travesty, Trump or not. If Biden, Clinton, or any other opposing party member were in the same position, I'd be questioning this action as well . Is this really the just reason that puts an end to Trump? I think these actions by Bragg and whomever supports those actions represent mine placement in the Democratic party future election landscape. They're going to forget where they placed those mines, imo...and they're going to stumble on them themselves at some point in the not too distant future. I felt strongly enough about this issue to leave my vital Vegas trip planning exercise to comment on it, and I'll speculate that this news is a bit disheartening for the US..all of us ( yes, even you liberals). Anyway, it'll provide some more napalm for your group to drop on Trump ( and/or on me..I don't care).
Do you liberals think your anti-Trump obsessions actually strengthen his status..or not? Curious if you ever consider that possibility at all? Or is he truly just that rotten in your minds? I think you've answered that last one previously..forget I asked. *l* Many of you certainly continue to allocate him an excessive amount of attention, it seems. His multiplicative iniquities have consumed some of ya. How many have you actually persuaded to join your band? Some of you illustrate regularly how powerful/ influential he has been / can be; and you perpetually quiver in your waders that this schlump will end up back in the White House in a couple years. All that is your bidness..carry on..
Back to my comfy conservative bunker. Send money and / or Treasure Island gaming chips...soon.
Calling indicting a criminal who happens to be a conservative god "a leftist endeavor blah blah" is a special kind of stupid. So what now, every time a political figure is charged with a crime, it's just a "witch hunt"--motivated purely by partisan opposition? Do you realize that ANY political figure can claim--and convince his followers--that he's being prosecuted, not because he actually did anything wrong, but because "they" are out to get him? Well, maybe you don't, because you seem to have drunk the Kool-aid yourself.
Objecting to and prosecuting Trump's many, many crimes isn't a "liberal" endeavor. It's a justice endeavor. And such a prosecution isn't any more political that prosecuting Goering was because he belonged to the National Socialist Party. And if you want to label being anti-Trump an "obsession," that's your lookout (unlike conservitards, I believe in free speech even if I disagree with it), but that doesn't mean it's an honest assessment.
To answer your question (sort of), I do believe that Trump's horrid actions DO strengthen his status...among the base. Most decent people are and have been appalled...but the 75 million caper and gibber and masturbate when he talks about standing at the border and killing people on the other side, or uses 1/3 of a billion dollars of taxpayer money to blackmail another country. The very things that make us decent people dry-heave gin up the bucktoothed inbreds. We think he's a lying-ass, narcissistic, populist con man, thief, and crook. Looking at the very same things that make us think that, the base crows, "He tells it like it is!!!!! DAWWWWK!"
And as long as those people are all around us, pissing in the drinking water and fouling the air, yeah, I'll continue to be concerned. There's still a distinctly nonzero chance that we will rapidly devolve into a fascist dictatorship, and those people will be the mechanism, with either Trump or one of his spiritual successors being the catalyst. So call us "obsessed" if you want. I'll call you "oblivious." Nyahh.
Kevin....No, I 'm not a special kind of stupid; just a general routine kind of stupid because I disagree with liberal democratic ideologies..according to some of you. But I should get some points / merit badges / Cheetos /TI gaming chips for consistency in my views ( close to 50 years now) while allowing your side to spew your opinions right alongside my own without referring to you as subhumans of various sorts. You, sir, can't say that truthfully. Fed-Ex those items post-haste, and we're cool; come back from Pluto when ya can, too.
PJ..Nope..if a person commits an alleged crime and a grand jury votes to indict and subsequently a judge issues a warrant, let the trial begin ( status should have zero to do with it, period). We don't know / haven't heard the charges and accompanying evidence in this case yet, and I don't pretend to know what those are. Just recall that my comments above are strictly related to this current Bragg / grand jury indictment, and that it appears as a weak case to me personally. The presented facts / evidence will let us know about said strength / weakness. And as the DA, is Bragg a liberal or not? He sure ain't a conservative based on his actions as DA, is he? Are we going to delude ourselves and ignore that political affiliation/s don't influence multiple DA decisions in this country? The latter kind of falls under the Columbian bush pilot umbrella...veracity - wise. Ultimately I'm not too concerned because I have free parking at multiple Vegas resorts next week..makes ya a little envious, doesn't it?
DA's dont render verdict in courts of law. So it doesnt really matter what party the DA belongs to. Cases dont see a trial unless there is sufficient evidence to warrant one.
Case in point....Trump and his lawyers have massive political bias. They brought about 100 lawsuits to a court after the 2020 election claiming all kinds of criminal activiy. But they didnt have any evidence so the judge laughed them out of court. The judge did not laugh Bragg out of the courtroom. So what are you aftaid of?
This case has several problems; one of which is statute of limitations. bragg is trying to get around this by attaching to federal law, where he is doesn't have authority.
It can also be argued that this is selective prosecution as getting Trump is what bragg ran on. Factoring in braggs consistent history of downgrading felony cases & all of sudden he upgrades a misdemeanor to a felony is inconsistent with his philosophy
There is also the issue that this case was dropped 4 times, by AG garland. the FEC, DA Vance & bragg himself. It only got resurrected when Trump declared his candidacy.