Dems make the right call in Tay-ucks-ass

Tom:  Don't argue with Kevin.  Especially about business or accounting.  He bad at both and we both know this.  A few years ago he told me unemployment taxes come out of someone's pay check.  When I questioned him, he always weasels out and in that instance.......said, "well I meant it is paid by employees because it isn't in their payroll/gross income."  Of course we know the employers pay the unemployment taxes, just like they pay for the pencils and water jugs in the office.  That damn lease/rent cost is coming out of employee's pockets as well.  

Jerryhole (that's your current persona), I explained to you what I meant then; you understood me perfectly, but because you wanted to drag out the argument, you pretended not to.

Taxes paid by an employer reduce the amounts that the employer can afford to pay employees, because those taxes add to the overall employment expense. Thus, taxes lower wages. Duh. Even you can comprehend that.

Now tell us: is little Tommy correct when he tells us that a for-profit company that pays dividends to its shareholders does so at no expense whatsoever? Jerryhole will dredge up some kind of half-assed argument, I'm sure.

(Keep in mind that little Tommy is telling us that dividends are not an expense/cost. I look forward to you embarrassing yourself by agreeing with him )

In 50 years, I've never had to wait only 24 minutes in an ER, so I didn't even bother to look at your link.

From AI:

"Emergency room wait times in the USA in 2024–2025 averaged roughly 2.5 to 2.7 hours (161–163 minutes) for a patient to be seen, with total visit times stretching much longer. Wait times are rising, driven by staffing shortages and "boarding" (waiting for a bed), with, for instance, DC averaging over 5 hours."

Here are the first four links from my search showing wait times of 2 hours or more.

Average Emergency Room Waiting Times By State & Country

Wait times for emergency hospitalization keep getting higher

The U.S. states with the shortest and longest ER wait times

United States emergency department performance on wait time and length of visit - PMC

Right in line with what I was paying yearly for coverage from my wife's employer. Seems reasonable.

Why would you copy a poorly run system if you're going to create a new system? I have an idea on how to do it, but I'm sure you would tear it down without much consideration.

Do you think linking your health coverage to an employer is a good way to create a national health coverage system?

Right in line with what I was paying yearly for coverage from my wife's employer. Seems reasonable.

For 2 people that would be $23,000.

I have an idea on how to do it, but I'm sure you would tear it down without much consideration.

Please share us your wisdom

Happy to. Just answer a few questions for me, and I'll share my ideas. Ones I thought up all by myself, as far as I know, with no influence from left-wing media.

Do you have health benefits from your employer? If so, how much is the total annual premium?

If you designed a national health care delivery network, would you base it on an employer-delivered system?

You do realize that whatever you say, Tom will still be in rabid favor of corporate healthcare? And he'll "support" his position with some Tom-stst, like the number of appendectomies in Arkansas in 2023..

The efficacy of single payer healthcare is very well documented, in dozens of nations that are similar to us in wealth and technology. That's beyond argumentation.

Keep in mind that Tom just told us that life expectancy doesn't matter. Therefore, his view of an ideal health care system might be...different.

In 50 years, I've never had to wait only 24 minutes in an ER, so I didn't even bother to look at your link.

Last month I waited 5 minuted for an ER visit at the Mayo clinic in Phoenix.  I quoted a neutral study.  You have nothing.

Do you have health benefits from your employer? If so, how much is the total annual premium?

We had it until I was self employed.  We now have Medicare & Medicare Supplement that we pay for, plus a nursing home policy that we pay for.

If you designed a national health care delivery network, would you base it on an employer-delivered system?

Sure

Share us your wisdom.

You said that life expectancy doesn't matter, so how would you design a healthcare system where people die as soon as possible? I'm guessing it would be based on horse tranquilizers and drinking bleach.