Does any anyone believe that the impeachment rules are set up to gain the truth?

Ah, another pointless Stalker bleat. Accusing everyone who states facts that he doesn't like of lying. Into the trash bin with him.

 

At this point, the identity of the whistleblower is no more important than the identity of the guard who discovered the break-in at the Watergate. What is important is that what he reported has been conclusively corroborated, Trumper whining and the Orange Orangutan's tweets notwithstanding.

 

DonDiego continues to disappoint. The impeachment hearing is being conducted carefully, deliberately, and according to the law. He can call it anything he likes, but he hasn't made any meaningful arguments in support of his position. He talks as if Trump was lily-white and innocent of any wrongdoing whatsoever and the impeachment hearing is just a vast conspiracy to get rid of him, when in actuality, it's an inquiry into whether or not he should be fired from his job for malfeasance.

 

Also refuting the "it's a Democratic conspiracy to overturn the rightful, sacred results of the holy 2016 election" argument is that everyone realizes that the Senate almost certainly will not vote to impeach. Therefore, the real point of this exercise is to see what Republican senators will throw themselves under the bus for Trump--which will lead to their defeat in 2020 or later.

Given that the Republicans will likely not do their duty in the Senate, the point is to make Republican Congress critters eat shit sandwiches several times a day with smiles on their faces in front of a national TV audience as evidence of Trump's crimes and misconduct pile up. 

 

It is interesting the Republicans seem to have a backup plan to ditch Trump if the shit gets too deep. According to Axios, they only need three Republicans to go on record to change the rules to a secret vote so individually they can claim it wasn't them that voted to remove Trump from office. 

 

Edited on Nov 13, 2019 11:48pm
Originally posted by: Mark

Given that the Republicans will likely not do their duty in the Senate, the point is to make Republicans Congress critters eat shit sandwiches several times a day with smiles on their faces in front of a national TV audience as evidence of Trump's crimes and misconduct pile up. 

 

It is interesting the Republicans seem to have a backup plan to ditch Trump if the shit gets too deep. According to Axios, they only need three Republicans to go on record to change the rules to a secret vote so individually they can claim it wasn't them that voted to remove Trump from office. 

 


Boy, that would be epic chickenshit. So of course, they'll do it. Reminds me of one of the bullets handed to a firing squad being a blank, so everyone can think it wasn't them that shot the guy.

 

The numeric results of the vote will still be a matter of public record, though. So if it's 53-47 against, it'll be safe to assume that all the Republicans voted "No"--and if it's 52-48, there will be one defector, whose identity we could probably figure out, etc.

 

Given the likely public backlash against a secret vote, they probably would only make that change if they met in the proverbial smoke-filled room and decided that they were going to throw Trump under the bus. Then Trump wouldn't know which ones he should have killed by Rudy the Rat.

 Once again, the Liberal B. S. machine here is spewing their toxic rhetoric, while wetting themselves with moronic glee. Gather up some mops and wring out your panties, as once again the DemocRats are proven to be liars. This farce will be about as worthwhile as Mueller's 2 plus years collusion report. 

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Originally posted by: Mark

Golly, you mean he was following the law? Even if he read it in the newspaper if he follows the law he can't confirm the guy's identity either for his own purposes or public consumption. I sure do wish Republicans would follow the law instead of breaking it. Anyway, the whistleblower's role is finished. His job was to tip off the government that somebody was doing something wrong so the government could investigate the matter. The whistleblower's report has since been confirmed by the testimony of numerous career diplomats, a high ranking military official and Trump's own appointees.  Clamoring to out the whistleblower serves no legal purpose. The only purpose it serves is illegal retaliation.

 

Here is a suggestion. Instead of voluntary aborting your intellect to mindlessly repeat slogans, why don't you make a substantive argument that Trump is innocent because the call didn't happen, aid wasn't withheld until an investigation was opened, a sale of weapons wasn't conditioned upon opening an investigation into the Bidens, a state visit wasn't offered in exchange for opening an investigation or that Trump didn't do all of these things in part because he had a psychotic belief in a conspiracy theory that the DNC's email server was hidden in Ukraine despite numerous experts in his own administration telling him that it was a debunked conspiracy theory. 

 

I will be waiting.

 

 

 

 


Mark, please tell us what law requires a politician to lie.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Hillary Clinton was not afraid to show up and confront the people under oath  whom she believed were running a show trial.  And she memorably kicked their ass on national TV when they questioned her.    Donald Trump refuses to engage on that same level of integrity and respect for our instituions.  Further, he has instructed all officials within his umbrella to obey that same directive.    

 

Thats one difference.

 

People who want to believe the propoganda  the current proceedings are a show trial would be well reminded that Democrats did not bring this scandal to the fore.   

 

It wasn't Adam Schiff.

It wasn't Maxine Waters.

It wasn't Nancy Pelosi.

It was a myriad of lfetime public servants from both parties who all corroborrated each other and came forward with what they believed to be a massiv abuse of power and danger to our national security.     

 

And all the crybaby complaining about politics in the proceedings does not change that.


Schiff has given himself the power to veto GOP witnesses.

And so has Donald Trump which is why he and all his direct appointees will be hiding under a rock instead of testifying .   (Hillary didn't hide like that)     I left lots of space below for you to voice your objection.

 

But neither action refutes the testimony of Bill Taylor, does it?    

Edited on Nov 14, 2019 7:02am

Everything Taylor said was hearsay & he admitted he has never spoken to President Trump. 

 

Clinton & Obama’s lackeys either pleaded the 5th or hid behind executive privilege. 

Tom, how silly of you Mark and little boy Kevin do not believe in facts.

The Bone-spur coward and his parade of scumbags are free to testify in the hearing.    And their hiding in the closet can be considered an impeachable act all by itself as there is no constituional basis for them doing so in am impeachment trial.

 

 

Edited on Nov 14, 2019 10:45am
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