Originally posted by: Inigo Montoya
DoGE is likely on course to find enough in wasteful spending that would cover the taxes that will paid by all Americans for 2024.
Yet you still think the status quo would be better somehow. Perhaps you have a mental deficiency?
According to whose definition of "wasteful"?
Picture yourself suddenly getting an email that you are fired as of...when
This happens every day and people adapt. No jobs are for life & the federal employees are learning this and that they can't pick where they work and when they may show up. My company cut 50% of the employees in 1 day and I was one of them. I wound up with a better job and a shorter commute.
More money for Musk and Trump and other bilionaires.
chuck schumer talkng point but how are they winding up with more money? They are working for free.
Originally posted by: tom
Picture yourself suddenly getting an email that you are fired as of...when
This happens every day and people adapt. No jobs are for life & the federal employees are learning this and that they can't pick where they work and when they may show up. My company cut 50% of the employees in 1 day and I was one of them. I wound up with a better job and a shorter commute.
More money for Musk and Trump and other bilionaires.
chuck schumer talkng point but how are they winding up with more money? They are working for free.
That's such a stupidly naive question, even for you, that I'm forced to conclude that you already know the answer and it's just a Stupid Tom standard rhetorical bleat.
Your orange master doesn't do a SINGLE thing that doesn't directly benefit him, and in this instance, he's hoping to cut his and Elon's taxes even further---and he's told Elon to reduce the inevitable huge (YUGE!) deficit by slashing government payroll.
DUHHHHHH, Stupid Tom.
BTW, bully for you, but suddenly losing your job is traumatic, and not everyone has another job option waiting in the wings. Have a little compassion, you worthless little MAGA tool.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
That's such a stupidly naive question, even for you, that I'm forced to conclude that you already know the answer and it's just a Stupid Tom standard rhetorical bleat.
Your orange master doesn't do a SINGLE thing that doesn't directly benefit him, and in this instance, he's hoping to cut his and Elon's taxes even further---and he's told Elon to reduce the inevitable huge (YUGE!) deficit by slashing government payroll.
DUHHHHHH, Stupid Tom.
BTW, bully for you, but suddenly losing your job is traumatic, and not everyone has another job option waiting in the wings. Have a little compassion, you worthless little MAGA tool.
Your lying never ceases...
Originally posted by: tom
Picture yourself suddenly getting an email that you are fired as of...when
This happens every day and people adapt. No jobs are for life & the federal employees are learning this and that they can't pick where they work and when they may show up. My company cut 50% of the employees in 1 day and I was one of them. I wound up with a better job and a shorter commute.
More money for Musk and Trump and other bilionaires.
chuck schumer talkng point but how are they winding up with more money? They are working for free.
In the private sector, jobs are evaluated individually with low performers being removed. They dont just fire random people without knowing what they do, how much they contribute, or how well they do their job.
What we see now is the manifestation of 30 years of Republican propoganda. And its been repeated a million times by the conservatives on this board. "All government workers are lazy, do-nothing bureaucrats who make six digit salaries and just take up space in cubicles. So you can just fire them all and nothing bad will happen." FOX News and right wing rags have been propogating that bullshit for years.
Ironically its Federal contractors that embody that description more so than Federal workers. Companies like Accenture will send in a team of 10 consultants to change a light bulb and hand the government a bill big enough to make OJ Simpson's attorney's blush. But its a Federal Contractor in charge of the cost cutting. And he's already corrupt in doing so.
Originally posted by: Brent Kline
Candy, you have a big heart, but our family is thrilled about the risignation offer and are waiting and hoping that there are not exclusions in the Hr field
If it works for you and your family, that's fine, Brent. Has anyone put pencil to paper to explain to you the pros and cons of taking the offer? That's all. If you work for the Fed you probably have the benefit of the FEHP options, for one example. That is a biggie you might lose, and individual health insurance can be ghastly expensive compared to the FEHP group premiums.
But, again, if it works for you, great.
Candy
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
In the private sector, jobs are evaluated individually with low performers being removed. They dont just fire random people without knowing what they do, how much they contribute, or how well they do their job.
What we see now is the manifestation of 30 years of Republican propoganda. And its been repeated a million times by the conservatives on this board. "All government workers are lazy, do-nothing bureaucrats who make six digit salaries and just take up space in cubicles. So you can just fire them all and nothing bad will happen." FOX News and right wing rags have been propogating that bullshit for years.
Ironically its Federal contractors that embody that description more so than Federal workers. Companies like Accenture will send in a team of 10 consultants to change a light bulb and hand the government a bill big enough to make OJ Simpson's attorney's blush. But its a Federal Contractor in charge of the cost cutting. And he's already corrupt in doing so.
PJ, you got that exactly right with "The broad brush to "fire random people without knowing what they do, how much they contribute, or how well they do their job."
I'm just shocked that this one non-Federal executive type person can do all that is said he is doing with such a broad brush. Of course he has the backing of Trump to make it legal, I suppose.
Who cares whether a patient gets properly prepared food on his meal trays, or that his room is cleaned, trash emptied, plumbing/electrical problems fixed quickly, doctors, nurses, scrub techs have all the PPE and other things needed to perform surgery safely?
And please let us not forget, when even one patient care person quits or retires or is fired, the process for filling his position takes months. Patient care suffers, patient safety is compromised. Because at that level each and every vacancy goes before a board to say yea or nay whether to fill it at all, and that "board" may meet once a quarter. Meanwhile the vacancy cannot even be announced, let alone the application process begun which goes through other hell-miles before going to a panel to interview applicants. Now, if Mr. Musk wants to do something good, he could look at those types of processes which DO waste time and compromise operations and employee morale, but that is no doubt a very long shot, because NOBODY in D.C. cares a whit about those things.
Rant over.
Candy
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
PJ, you got that exactly right with "The broad brush to "fire random people without knowing what they do, how much they contribute, or how well they do their job."
I'm just shocked that this one non-Federal executive type person can do all that is said he is doing with such a broad brush. Of course he has the backing of Trump to make it legal, I suppose.
Who cares whether a patient gets properly prepared food on his meal trays, or that his room is cleaned, trash emptied, plumbing/electrical problems fixed quickly, doctors, nurses, scrub techs have all the PPE and other things needed to perform surgery safely?
And please let us not forget, when even one patient care person quits or retires or is fired, the process for filling his position takes months. Patient care suffers, patient safety is compromised. Because at that level each and every vacancy goes before a board to say yea or nay whether to fill it at all, and that "board" may meet once a quarter. Meanwhile the vacancy cannot even be announced, let alone the application process begun which goes through other hell-miles before going to a panel to interview applicants. Now, if Mr. Musk wants to do something good, he could look at those types of processes which DO waste time and compromise operations and employee morale, but that is no doubt a very long shot, because NOBODY in D.C. cares a whit about those things.
Rant over.
Candy
The sad reality of all of the misspent money, all of the fraud, all of the hidden tax payer dollars by the corrupt DemocRats the last 4 years has caused the national debt to skyrocket, and now that the United States is on the verge of becomming insolvent, drastic measures are necessary and are coming into play - and all the corrupt DemocRats can do is bitch and moan as their corrupt ways are being uncovered. These bastards don't give a shit about what they have done and how it has affected America. They are trying to cover their corrupt asses by pretending to care about the very people thay have cheated as they accumulated personal wealth at tax payer expense. Every DemocRat in congress belongs in jail. They are what is wrong in America.
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
PJ, you got that exactly right with "The broad brush to "fire random people without knowing what they do, how much they contribute, or how well they do their job."
I'm just shocked that this one non-Federal executive type person can do all that is said he is doing with such a broad brush. Of course he has the backing of Trump to make it legal, I suppose.
Who cares whether a patient gets properly prepared food on his meal trays, or that his room is cleaned, trash emptied, plumbing/electrical problems fixed quickly, doctors, nurses, scrub techs have all the PPE and other things needed to perform surgery safely?
And please let us not forget, when even one patient care person quits or retires or is fired, the process for filling his position takes months. Patient care suffers, patient safety is compromised. Because at that level each and every vacancy goes before a board to say yea or nay whether to fill it at all, and that "board" may meet once a quarter. Meanwhile the vacancy cannot even be announced, let alone the application process begun which goes through other hell-miles before going to a panel to interview applicants. Now, if Mr. Musk wants to do something good, he could look at those types of processes which DO waste time and compromise operations and employee morale, but that is no doubt a very long shot, because NOBODY in D.C. cares a whit about those things.
Rant over.
Candy
Candy, as you're very aware, all you have to do is label something "waste" and that's an instant pretext to abolish/defund it...and to TrumpElon, anything that doesn't benefit them directly is wasteful.
They don't know what it's like to need medical care and not get it...or to need food and to pay the rent but be unable to afford both...or to work in unsafe conditions and be in constant danger of injury. Yet, they've assumed the power to inflict all that on others. AMERICANS.
It's the worst, grossest immorality to make others suffer so you can make a little more money/tighten your grip on power. Shame, shame, shame on all who voted for this...and are trying to justify it now
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Candy, as you're very aware, all you have to do is label something "waste" and that's an instant pretext to abolish/defund it...and to TrumpElon, anything that doesn't benefit them directly is wasteful.
They don't know what it's like to need medical care and not get it...or to need food and to pay the rent but be unable to afford both...or to work in unsafe conditions and be in constant danger of injury. Yet, they've assumed the power to inflict all that on others. AMERICANS.
It's the worst, grossest immorality to make others suffer so you can make a little more money/tighten your grip on power. Shame, shame, shame on all who voted for this...and are trying to justify it now
The sad reality of all of the misspent money, all of the fraud, all of the hidden tax payer dollars by the corrupt DemocRats the last 4 years has caused the national debt to skyrocket, and now that the United States is on the verge of becomming insolvent, drastic measures are necessary and are coming into play - and all the corrupt DemocRats can do is bitch and moan as their corrupt ways are being uncovered. These bastards don't give a shit about what they have done and how it has affected America. They are trying to cover their corrupt asses by pretending to care about the very people thay have cheated as they accumulated personal wealth at tax payer expense. Every DemocRat in congress belongs in jail. They are what is wrong in America.
