Donald Trump Signs Funding Bill to Avoid Government Shutdown

Unless you have personally experienced a govt shutdown, you can't appreciate the effect on so many aspects of it, who is affected financially,

Candy - everyone who works on the private side has experienced being laid off.  We deal with it.  Why are govt employees exempt and expect a lifetime job?

Presently the govt is running an annual $2T deficit which is unsustainable.  Thus the cuts.

I suspect the average non-fed citizen barely notices anything before it is resolved.

Thus the issue; if nobody notices the govt is shutdown, then why do we need these alleged services?

Democrats didn't complain when hochul fired 2,000 unionized prison guards last week 

Tom:

Exempt from what?  This "shutdown" occurred many times during my 35+ years of Federal service (Dept. of Veterans Affairs).  I don't know what you mean by exempt.  Also, "a lifetime job" may be more of a myth than a benefit, unless one is a Federal judge or on the Supreme Court.  True that Federal employees have some protections in the event of disciplinary action or termination that private sector doesn't offer, but private sector salaries are higher than equivalent to the Fed job now, which many years ago was not the case.  Also those protections are not a guarantee if the employee's performance is truly substandard.  

And as for "alleged services": mail, TSA, Air Traffic Control, medical care come immediately to mind.  

I don't know about the 2000 unionized prison guards fired.  Depends on how many at each prison, but I'd be worried if I worked at one or was incarcerated at one.  Again, the higher ups don't know the impact of short staffing.  If you are the patient, or the nurse who had to work overtime to the point of exhaustion because a certain position(s) was elimated.  Or even allowed to be filled for a long time.

I'm glad I retired, to say the least.  I feel for any person at any organzation who is laid off, them and those who had to fill in for them and the customers depending on them for service.

But it scares me to hear of layoffs of TSA, Air Traffic Control, any law enforcement organization, NTSB, those who keep our national parks clean and safe...so many never thought about.  

We seldom fully understand the job of another, private sector or Federal. All subject to a domino effect.

Candy

What about Trump's tax cuts for the rich, which have cost the US government $10.5 trillion so far?

  Post a link.

Stupid Tom:

Government employees are contractual. That means they have rights and can't be summarily fired for no reason other than that Elon is mad at the world. 

The deficit is due to the idiot Trump tax cuts. Without them, we'd be running a government surplus.

There are a LOT of beneficial government services that the average citizen barely notices, That doesn't mean they're unimportant. I doubt that the average citizen pays attention to the FDA, for example. But what they do saves lives.

Stupid Tom.

I don't take orders from you. Now call me a LIAR LIAR LIAR for not following your orders. Or stick a tire iron so far up your ass, it comes out of your mouth. I don't care either way.

Candy, there's a persistent myth among the ignorant, that GUMMINT AM BAD and therefore, everything the government does is wasteful, or useless, or excessive, or counterproductive. Nothing about that mythos is more prevalent than how the conservative goobers talk about regulatory agencies. Those agencies' work is largely invisible to the public; it isn't glamorous or sexy; and the benefits are often that bad things DON'T happen, which people rarely perceive.

Stupid Tom, MAGA, and conservatives in general think that what our government does is unimportant because they can't see the benefits. GUMMINT AM BAD is the idiot shibboleth that has fueled Project 2025.

Stupid Tom may be so ignorant as to call the services rendered by the post office, ATC, TSA, FDA, medical oversight and regulation, etc. etc. "alleged," but he's, well, not to put too fine a point on it, a complete fucking idiot. And slashing government services WILL cause great harm, even though the stupid Toms of this world may not see it.

The associated question, of course, is: are our billionaires in such dire straits that we need to dismantle the government in order to help them out? Does the Constitution start with "In order to ensure the continued wealth and comfort of the rich..."?

 You don't post one because there are no links.

  Government is bad when they waste tax payer money. 

You're upset that Democrats didn't support an illegal wildcat strike and fired the guards that failed to return to work when the union said they would?

Here is an apple, and here is an orange, do they look different to you at all?