Remember when Republicans pushed a senile, affable old codger into the White House because he vowed to oppose and defeat "the evil empire"?
Now they're pushing a senile, incredibly nasty old codger into the White House because he loves and has vowed to serve that same evil empire.
Putin must be laughing himself sick.
If there is reason to think Biden paid a bribe to Ukraine to influence an investigation involving his son, there would be nothing wrong with Trump, Rudy Giuliani or anyone else urging Ukraine to investigate that.
The problem would come if Trump conditioned something else on Ukraine’s willingness to investigate. We should be deciding to give Ukraine military aid, or not give them military aid, based on the merits of that issue alone. Whether they investigate Joe Biden should have nothing to do with it.
Now, if a proposition like that was put forward, I’m sure it would not be the first time a U.S. administration inappropriately mixed its own political interests with a more substantive policy question. But that wouldn’t make it okay, and it would beyond stupid for Trump to do so in a political environment that sees so many people looking for an excuse to impeach him. That's a huge "IF". Trump denies it, and given there were supposed to be a number of people who heard the alleged contents of the phone call, one would think there would be someone else would willling to back up what the anonymous whistle blower claims.
IF it did happen, how would giving military aid to the Ukraine "serve the same evil empire" and make Putin happy?
I didn't say it would be. Getting dirt on Biden might be taking a higher priority for him than his ongoing bromance with Putin. But Trump in general continues to be a Russian puppet, evidenced by, for instance, his behavior at the G-7 summit.
And of course, we know that Trump will betray any alliance if he feels that doing so will suit his short-term interests; he has the event horizon of a toddler.
Don, I was using the dictionary definition of Treason, not the one found in the U.S. code which only specifies which types of treasonous acts are prosecutable under the U.S. Code. Individual states also define which types of treasonous acts violate their state-specific treason laws. The U.S. Constitution defines bribery and treason as high crimes. In fact, they are the only two acts listed as specific examples of high crimes. From what we know at this point, it looks like Trump committed both of these.
— U.S. Constitution, Article II, section 4: The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
As President, Trump would be prosecuted under the Impeachment rules found in the Constitution, not the U.S. code.
Dictionary Definition Of Treason - The crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
Did Trump betray the U.S. government? Of course, he did. Was it an attempt to overthrow the government by rigging the election. Of course, it was.
I have learned trying to explain something away by citing a highly technical definition is a tactic Don uses when faced with an uncomfortable truth. Nevertheless, I’ll let Don play law student. What is your opinion on the legality of bribing foreign governments with taxpayer funds to have them criminally investigate your political opponents? And what is the legality of converting U.S. funds to personal use for the purpose of bribing foreign governments?
His acts may not meet the definition of treason under the U.S. code but these treasonous acts are certainly high crimes under the U.S. Constitution.
BTW: The guy that wrote the book on Constitutional Law that almost every law student in the country is taught from agrees with me. See
Mark, you're going to run into apologia for Trump's crimes no matter what the facts are. Remember this simple truth: Trumpers can't admit that Trump is a traitor (etc.), because that would mean that they voted for and continue to support a traitor--which makes them traitors as well. Denial--even stupid, ludicrous denial--of the facts is less painful than admitting they betrayed their country.
Will the Senate ever grow a pair and vote to impeach Trumpscum even if the House does? No way, not as long as Moscow Mitch and his lackeys are in charge. So the investigation should be focused on charging Trump with his many, many crimes and prosecuting, not impeaching him.
You really should be seeing a whole team of psychologists.
Ever notice how Trumpers, lacking the intellectual ability to actually argue against your points, sink to personal insults, almost reflexively?
We all know that the shame that Trumpers feel every time they pick up a newspaper (those of them who can read) and read about the latest crimes of their hero is what makes them so nasty. How much easier it would be for them to simply admit that their emperor has no clothes!
According to and posted by Kevin -"Ever notice how Trumpers, lacking the intellectual ability to actually argue against your points, sink to personal insults, almost reflexively?" - Amazing, Kevin describes his everyday behavior to a "T", and he is oblivious to this undeniable fact.
The true problem in this country is that, as we've discovered to our horror, there were millions of evil, stupid people hiding under rocks who were just waiting to crawl out and make their presence felt. Then along came a populist, narcissistic demagogue who skillfully deployed race hatred and nativism to stir up those scumbags.
If Obama had done a FRACTION of the treasonous things Trump has done, Republicans would have been SCREAMING for his prosecution, impeachment, execution, etc. But they have been shamefully silent, while the knuckle-dragging, drooling idiots at his hate rallies chant their slogans.
Apparently, what really twists Republican panties is when a Democrat sends emails. High treason by a Republican President? Hey, no problem.
Benedict Arnold, Aldrich Ames, Robert Hanssen, John Walker Lindh and Donald Trump are David Miller’s and Fritz's personal heroes. The more someone betrays the country the more David Miller and Fritz love them.
