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Originally posted by: tom

 What  does dealer think Iran was going to do with their bomb after killing americans and chanting death to America for 47 years 

 

In 2024, 92.0% of Americans — about 310 million people — had health insurance for some or all of the year Census.gov Census.gov . This means roughly 8% of the U.S. population (about 27.2 million people) did not have health insurance at that time CDC CDC .

 

the absolute horror, of universal health coverage that tries to keep Americans alive!

 

A universal healthcare system in the United States would require between $1.5 trillion and $3.0 trillion in additional federal spending per year, depending on how it’s designed. That’s the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate for 2030 under a single-payer model based on Medicare.

 

And how would dealer expect to pay for this?  Bear in mind a "medicare" plan includes a deductable, a monthly premium of a few hundred and medicare doesn't cover all surgeries and nursing homes; so one has to buy additional coverage.

 

Bear in mind in Europe more than 20% buy private health coverage.

 

 


     Asking "what does dealer think" made me laugh .....

DSA is the whackadoodle part of the Democratic Party; I would previously dismiss them outright as not having a chance to implement their agenda. Until the wackadoodle MAGA movement gutted the Republic party with their asinine allegiance to Trump.

 

What a terrible choice to have, vote MAGA or DSA, I shudder at the thought.

 

By the way tom, thoughts on the current Employee Participation Rate that was high on your agenda during the Biden Administration?

 

 

Originally posted by: tom

 What  does dealer think Iran was going to do with their bomb after killing americans and chanting death to America for 47 years 

 

In 2024, 92.0% of Americans — about 310 million people — had health insurance for some or all of the year Census.gov Census.gov . This means roughly 8% of the U.S. population (about 27.2 million people) did not have health insurance at that time CDC CDC .

 

the absolute horror, of universal health coverage that tries to keep Americans alive!

 

A universal healthcare system in the United States would require between $1.5 trillion and $3.0 trillion in additional federal spending per year, depending on how it’s designed. That’s the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate for 2030 under a single-payer model based on Medicare.

 

And how would dealer expect to pay for this?  Bear in mind a "medicare" plan includes a deductable, a monthly premium of a few hundred and medicare doesn't cover all surgeries and nursing homes; so one has to buy additional coverage.

 

Bear in mind in Europe more than 20% buy private health coverage.

 

 


What Iran does with whatever weapons they develop is Iran's business, not ours. Just like what we do with our arsenal of 5,000 nuclear weapons is our business.

 

27.2 million people not having health care seems insignificant to Commie Tommy. It seems significant to me, and I'm sure very significant if you're one of those people.

 

How would it be paid for? Higher taxes on billionaires--cancel the Trump tax breaks. Not spending hundreds of billions dropping bombs on other countries. Eliminate the Turdiffs that are still draining our wallets. 

 

The Turd War is costing $100 billion a month, so that would be a large part of Commie Tommy's $1.5-3.0 trillion right there. Shoot the Turd in the head and save over a trillion dollars a year.

 

Americans could also buy private health coverage. So what if some European residents do that? What's Commie Tommy's idiotic point? (I guess he's trying to say that their coverage is inadequate, otherwise why would they buy additional insurance--the answer is, duhhhh, that the additional coverage may help them get priority care. Saying that we shouldn't have universal health care because some Europeans buy their own is Tom-logic at its finest.)

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

DSA is the whackadoodle part of the Democratic Party; I would previously dismiss them outright as not having a chance to implement their agenda. Until the wackadoodle MAGA movement gutted the Republic party with their asinine allegiance to Trump.

 

What a terrible choice to have, vote MAGA or DSA, I shudder at the thought.

 

By the way tom, thoughts on the current Employee Participation Rate that was high on your agenda during the Biden Administration?

 

 


Many of their idea and tenets are common sense. Like that commie SOOOOOCIALIST universal health care stuff. Environmental stewardship (God forbid). Not spending thousands of lives and trillions of dollars dropping boomity booms on other countries to satisfy an orange pig's manhood yearnings. Restoring equity to marginalized groups.

 

Humanity and common decency platforms do seem all COMMIE COMMIE COMMIE when contrasted with the MAGA hate agenda. And yeah, things like decent health care and not destroying the planet we live on are radical liberal liberal radical left-wing nonsense; definitely "wackadoodle."


Tom, did you get this from the same source that told you about the Democrats' 80 trillIon dollar Green New Deal?     

 

I got news for you.....Trump has already made the US government a partial owner of several US Companies and requires others to pay the government a direct percentage of their profits before taxes.    That is the actual definition of Socialism....and its the thing you are pointing to in your list that the DSA is threatening.   

 

 

So this is your big chance to denounce the Socialism intrusion of the guy you voted for 3 times.    Go ahead.   We're all waiting.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Tom, did you get this from the same source that told you about the Democrats' 80 trillIon dollar Green New Deal?     

 

I got news for you.....Trump has already made the US government a partial owner of several US Companies and requires others to pay the government a direct percentage of their profits before taxes.    That is the actual definition of Socialism....and its the thing you are pointing to in your list that the DSA is threatening.   

 

 

So this is your big chance to denounce the Socialism intrusion of the guy you voted for 3 times.    Go ahead.   We're all waiting.


  And Elvis is still waiting for you to return his jumpsuit...

Trump has already made the US government a partial owner of several US Companies and requires others to pay the government a direct percentage of their profits before taxes.

If it makes pj feel better I don't like it; but dividends are after taxes

 

What Iran does with whatever weapons they develop is Iran's business, not ours.

 

It is our business if that bomb is a threat to us; why else do they need ballistic mssiles?  They are already attacking their neighbors for no reason.

 

So the country is supposed to upend an economic system for 8% of the population?

Higher taxes on billionaires-

 

The Forbes 400 list — which ranks the 400 richest Americans — shows that the top 400 individuals are worth a record $6.6 trillion

 

So if we taxed the 400 richest Americans at 100% there would only be enough money for maybe 5 years.  Then what?

Edited on Jul 12, 2026 6:35pm
Originally posted by: tom

Trump has already made the US government a partial owner of several US Companies and requires others to pay the government a direct percentage of their profits before taxes.

If it makes pj feel better I don't like it; but dividends are after taxes

 

What Iran does with whatever weapons they develop is Iran's business, not ours.

 

It is our business if that bomb is a threat to us; why else do they need ballistic mssiles?  They are already attacking their neighbors for no reason.

 

So the country is supposed to upend an economic system for 8% of the population?

Higher taxes on billionaires-

 

The Forbes 400 list — which ranks the 400 richest Americans — shows that the top 400 individuals are worth a record $6.6 trillion

 

So if we taxed the 400 richest Americans at 100% there would only be enough money for maybe 5 years.  Then what?


Dividends aren't taxes, stupid Tom.

 

Whether we feel they are a threat or not, Iran is a sovereign nation. By your reckoning, they have every right to attack us. because we've repeatedly bombed them and killed their people! And WE have ballistic missiles!

 

After that five years, we continue to tax them at the same rate we used to before the Big Pig Bill. We could also restore the corporate tax rate that the orange pig slashed in half. And you're confusing net worth--which we don't tax--with income, which we do. That's kind of basic, stupid Tom.

 

Fair taxation would only "upend" our economic system to the extent that the country's wealth would no longer be concentrated in the hands of the top 1%.

Below is a list of completely over-the-top Socialism comitted by the Trump administration.     I dont think SOcialism is always a bad word.   But for people like Tom who pretend like they do - they should really take stock of what Trump has done because its a helluva lot more socialist than what any president has done in our lifetime.

 

Feel free to agree or disagree with the policy but you sure as hell cant classify it as Free Market Capitalism.

Something to remember when people start fear mongering about Democratic Socialists.

 

 

The United States Government is now the biggest owner of "Free Market" company Intel with a 10% direct ownership.     They also directly have ownership in MP Materials, Trilogy Metals, Lithium America, Vulcan, and Westinghouse.

 

Trump's US Govt has a golden share with US Steel which allows them "veto power" in their corporate decisions.

 

Trump's US government gets 25% of all Nvidia's sales to China.

 

Trump's US government imposed universal tariffs with every country on the planet...

....and subsidized US farmers.

...and passed requirements for Free Market companies to set up shop on Domestic soil or be punished

...and demanded and was granted WAL*MART to lower its prices

...

 

 

 

Edited on Jul 13, 2026 7:34am
Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

DSA is the whackadoodle part of the Democratic Party; I would previously dismiss them outright as not having a chance to implement their agenda. Until the wackadoodle MAGA movement gutted the Republic party with their asinine allegiance to Trump.

 

What a terrible choice to have, vote MAGA or DSA, I shudder at the thought.

 

By the way tom, thoughts on the current Employee Participation Rate that was high on your agenda during the Biden Administration?

 

 


I can find things in both MAGA and DSA that I applaud....and many things I abhore.   

 

With DHS - I fully support Medicare for all and will have that debate with anyone anytime anywhere as to why that is superior to the status quo train wreck of our healthcare system.     But then they want to defund ICE and stop energy producton and have taken a really aggressive stance against technology.

 

I support MAGA in the effort to secure the border and cut waste.  I dont support rounding up illegal aliens with no criminal record and have done nothing but raise a family and work peacefully in our country....and cutting waste doesnt mean getting rid of regulators and wrecklessly firing people without understanding what they do.

 

 

 

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