PJ is always blind to the factual evidence. Reading comprehension is definately not his strong suit. How one can be so obtuse and still breath is a mystery to me...
PJ is always blind to the factual evidence. Reading comprehension is definately not his strong suit. How one can be so obtuse and still breath is a mystery to me...
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
So your evidence of voter fraud is that lots of voters showed up on buses....had to wait in line for hours to vote...and culminanated in Democrats winning elections.
The only evidence of a of a problem I see in your description is people having to wait in Line for hours to vote.
Why do you think democrats do not want voter ID if there is no voter fraud? Are democrats too stupid to get an ID?
Originally posted by: vegasdawn
Why do you think democrats do not want voter ID if there is no voter fraud? Are democrats too stupid to get an ID?
Or too old....or too handicapped....or too poor. If the state would make it easy to get a voter Id by mail Democrats support it.....but Republicans don’t. Because they don’t give a shit about voter fraud...they give a shit about democrats voting.
The Nevada Republican Secretary of State who is in charge of state elections says there is no merit to claims of voter election fraud in the state
Bummer, huh?
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
Or too old....or too handicapped....or too poor. If the state would make it easy to get a voter Id by mail Democrats support it.....but Republicans don’t. Because they don’t give a shit about voter fraud...they give a shit about democrats voting.
The Nevada Republican Secretary of State who is in charge of state elections says there is no merit to claims of voter election fraud in the state
Bummer, huh?
With voter ID, people have to prove they're eligible to vote. Without it, people who aren't eligible can vote democrat, dead people can vote democrat, and democrats can vote multiple times. Democrats can get IDs for all of the other things that require an ID, but requiring it for voting would make it much more difficult for them to cheat on elections. They don't want that!
vegasdawn, Here is the thing. Republicans have made it very hard to get an ID. If you are not a homeowner and live with a roommate, SO, parents or anybody else where utilities aren't in your name, you are going to have a hard time getting a state issued ID. Often people living in urban areas, especially young folks, don't even bother getting Drivers Licenses anymore. Even with a decent income, the cost of having a car in an area like that for parking, insurance and the car itself is cost prohibitive. It is cheaper to use public transportation, Uber, Lyft and so on.
Republicans know this and that is why they are always trying to add requirements to make it more difficult to get a state-issued ID and to very narrowly define what is a valid ID for voting e.g., No student ids from accredited universities, only things associated with home or automobile ownership and so on. One state even tried to make it so an NRA membership card without a photo was an acceptable ID for voting but a photo ID issued by an in-state University was not. Republicans know the only way they win national elections these days is to suppress voting and or to gerrymander their candidates in. The only significant voting fraud that occurs is when Republicans tamper in elections as they did in North Carolina. Republicans don't even have an issue with an outright massive fraudulent voting scheme ran by a political party like that one. Rather than take on large scale criminal voting fraud, they would rather gin up conspiracy theories about individual "voter fraud" to justify their schemes to make it hard for people to vote that are members of a demographic they don't want to vote.
The demographics republicans don't want voting are illegal aliens, dead people, ans people who vote multiple times. Democrats want and need those votes.
Originally posted by: Bob Orme
The demographics republicans don't want voting are illegal aliens, dead people, ans people who vote multiple times. Democrats want and need those votes.
Provide me some statistics on how often that happens. The demographics Republicans don't want are poor, urban, younger voters, elderly voters and voters of color.
Another Illinoisan awakes.
A writer identified as Jane the Actuary writes:
"Illinois readers will already be aware of the flurry of activity due to a May 31 deadline for the regular legislative session in Illinois: legalizing pot, passing a budget, and funding a massive infrastructure construction plan with tax boosts and a near-doubling of gambling positions in the state, along with some 300 other bills that sailed under the radar in the last days of the session. And — sadly, but not surprisingly — the details of these bills were largely hammered out in backroom deals, without any transparency. It’s a discouraging story, and readers elsewhere can choose whether to take this as a cautionary tale or revel in schadenfreude."
Jane the Actuary goes on to give examples of typical, . . . at least typical in Illinois, . . . government pork barrel spending including items like, . . . $50-million in grants to the Illinois Arts Council chaired by the wife of the Illinois House of Representatives, . . . $370,000 for the Inner City Muslim Action Network, . . . and $1.5-million for an "AIDS Garden".
A frustrated Jane the Actuary mentions that essentially no action was taken to address the ever-growing deficit in the State pension funds, . . . except one legislator suggesting the State sell assetts and another "expecting" that gambling and pot-taxes will take care of it.
Jane the Actuary concludes:
"I know it seems unwarranted to say, “we can’t do anything about this,” given that we do have free and fair elections in Illinois, but the groundswell of opposition that it would require to get Republicans elected in contested districts, when the Democrats’ war chest is so large, or to get an anti-Madigan Democrat on the ballot at the primary stage, would be so massive that it simply does not seem like a feasible endeavor, relative to the alternate approach of identifying a state to which to relocate, in our case, after the youngest is out of school.
So, readers, which state do you recommend?"
Ref: What's Your Illinois Exit Plan
The writing is on the wall for lvfritz.
Sounds like progress to me. More gambling and Pot is a painless way to raise revenue. Paying for infrastructure improvements with funding instead of putting it on the credit card seems like a reasonable approach. I especially like the more gambling part as Illinois is a short drive away for me.
I don't know why she thinks Republicans are the answer. The prior governor was a Republican and it was a disaster. He tried to be a dictator and it didn't go well.
Originally posted by: Mark
Provide me some statistics on how often that happens. The demographics Republicans don't want are poor, urban, younger voters, elderly voters and voters of color.
When an ID isn't required, statistics can't be available...but I've never heard of buses full of republicans showing up at the last minute at polls, or republicans in prison for voting multiple times.
You think the poor, urban, younger voters, elderly voters and voters of color are all democrats? I guess they should be told by democrats not only what to think, but also who they should vote for. You obviously hold all of those groups in high esteem!