Energy independence

PJ, I agree with you mostly.  For some stupid reason, the oil market reacts today to drilling efforts today, which makes little sense.

Who the hell on this site ever claimed admiration for Putin?  Claiming that he has played the West doesn't equate to admiration, and those claiming so are either stupid or disingenuous.

Not a single point in this post has anything to do with the price consumers are payinf for oil and gas.

You said the govt doesn't intervene in oil production, but it does.

prices will drive more and more people to electric cars and solar panels, and utilities will increase their power generation from sustainable sources. It's inevitable

Where does kevin electricity comes from to power those electric cars?  NYC may have problems this summer with electrical shortages.

I am in normally sunny Phoenix right now & it is cloudy.  What happens when there is no sun or wind?  Germany is struggling with their sustainable electric grid & have had to buy more gas & oil.  Lithium for sustainable power comes from China.  Do we want to depend on China?

Under Obama, Russian oil imports decreased 44%. Under Trump, Russian oil imports increased 49%

Not true.  The attached data shows that oil from Russia jumps up & down, with some large swings when obama was in charge.

 https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIM_NUS-NRS_1&f=M

The most recent data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration shows that the U.S. increased its oil imports from Russia by an average of 154,000 barrels per day in the first 11 months of 2021.

tom, tom, tom. When are you going to realize that I can ALWAYS back up my claims?

In Obama's first year, Russian oil imports were 205,525 barrels. In his last, they were 161,286,000.

In Trump's first year, Russian oil imports were 142,011. In his last, they were 197,720.

So tell me again how Trump was tough with the Russians.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=mttim_nus-nrs_1&f=a

No - I said this:  "There is absolutely no government intervention that is stopping fossil fuel drillers from providing enough supply with their existing fields. "

And that is a true statement.    You statements about opening fields and pipelines for some future date is irrelevant to the price you are paying at the pump today...and to the supply of oil and gas today.    

But thanks for stopping by.

Stupid Tommie-poo is an idiotically simplistic thinker. It isn't either sustainable or fossil fuels. It's some of both. i said that the proportion of the total energy produced by sustainable sources will gradually increase. "What happens when there is no sun or wind?" Well, stupid Tommie-poo, if there actually is no sun, we have more problems than just keeping the lights on. Or maybe stupid Tommie-poo doesn't realize that solar still works when it's cloudy--just not as well? Maybe stupid Tommie-poo doesn't know what a "battery" is? Obviously, when solar and wind aren't producing, then we should burn expensive, polluting fossil fuels. They can still be useful as a backup energy source--they just shouldn't be a primary source.

Stupid Tommie-poo is addled. He tries to refute PJ's assertion that oil imports from Russia decreased under Obama but increased under Trump---by citing a statistic from 2021, when neither Obama nor Trump was President!

Dumb fuck Tommie-poo doesn't know that Chile has EIGHT TIMES the lithium deposits that China has--and he doesn't know that Australia and Argentina have over twice as much as China. Moronic Tommie-poo also doesn't know that Australia produces six times as much, and Argentina 2.5 times as much, lithium as China.

Stupid, babbling Tommie-poo never checks his facts, because to him, what matter is if something sounds good to him, not whether it's true. Stupid, worthless, babbling, drooling Tommie-poo.

Under obama oil imports increased to well over 200m barrels & then started to decrease.  So cherrypicking individual years is disingenuous.  Under biden Russian oil has increased dramatically.

China has the most battery quality lithium & makes the most lithium batteries; thus the problem on relying on solar.

Of the 136 lithium-ion battery plants in the pipeline to 2029, 101 are based in China. The largest manufacturer of electric vehicle batteries with a 27.9 percent market share is China’s Contemporary Amperex Technology Co. Ltd. (CATL) founded in 2011

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2019/08/04/why-china-is-dominating-lithium-ion-battery-production/?sh=4fe1daf73786

Anybody who has been a poster on this board for the last 10 years can review Tom's ridiculous positions on energy on how history has proven his predictions to be ignorant....

Whether thats decrying how solar couldnt be part of the energy grid "cause da sun dont always shine".

Or decrying how wind couldnt be part of the energy grid "cause da wind dont always blow"

or decring how EV vehicles cant become mainstream "cause cant run no car on no windmill"

or decrying how the entire alternative energy sector is a sham "cause Solyndra"

10 years later green energy continues to grow and has officially become cheaper than fossil fuels in many parts of the country.    And every car maker has said their consumer based car lineup will be completely EV within 10 years.    Growing at over 40% the Green Energy sector is the fastest growing and biggest job producer of all the enrgy sources.

But on the other hand ...."cant run no car on no windmill".

When it comes to green energy  one is better off listening to the engineers bringing us that technology vs ...Tom.

I learned today that the oil and gas industry has over 9,000 permitted wells that they are choosing not to use. I suppose if they were in use, we could reduce our imports.

But that's just a theory.

Did you know that contradicting all the conservitard bleating, the Biden administration has issued more drilling permits than the Trump administration did during the Orange Pusbag's entire tenure? So we must be pretty goddamn "energy independent" to have all those fossil fuel sources and not use them, right?

I actually don't understand why conservitards bleat so much about renewable energy. Is it simply because the fossil fuel states are in the iron grip of Big Oil and the politicans who serve it feel they have to oppose it? Because it's the present, and it's the future. Fossil fuels are the past, as are the conservitards who oppose renewable energy.