Fantastic DNI choice

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

 And I'm glad your team won the election.  We'd be in the midst of a Civil War here if they didnt - and you would be one of those thugs in the picture.


And as for your smear of me personally "you would be one of those thugs in the picture"...let me say a few things.  Breeching the capitol on January 6th was incredibly stupid after President Trump had asked supporters TO PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTIALLY MARCH AND LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD.  There were 250,000 Trump Supporters that day.  75 Million voted for him.  1500 trespassed into the capitol.

 

To blame every Trump supporter for the acts of a few is wrong. I'll admit I've done it on the other side and that was wrong too. Most Trump supporters actually agree with me that going into the Capitol that day was wrong....especially after Trump asked them to peacefully and patriotically protest.   But still, 1500 or so went into the Capitol.  It was a protest that turned into a riot.  Still, most of them were non-violent but some attacked police and destroyed property.  They all paid a heavy price. One of them was shot and killed. But Democrats have been exploiting that day ever since.  Turning it into the Greatest Threat to Democracy Ever and blaming all Trump voters for it...that's just bullshit and you know it.  

 

It would be like me claiming that "Since democrats supported the Black Lives Matter protests which often turned into riots therefore PJ supported those riots that killed 33 and caused 2 billion in damage".  So to make it even, I have to ask "Has PJ looted any Target Stores this year?".  See how that works?

Troops deployed overseas is not synonymous with combat

 

The bases & ships are bombed regularly with casualties  I consider that being in combat.  US planes have attacked various bases.

Originally posted by: tom

Troops deployed overseas is not synonymous with combat

 

The bases & ships are bombed regularly with casualties  I consider that being in combat.  US planes have attacked various bases.


What you consider, stupid Tom, is meaningless. Combat is when troops are actively fighting opponents to aachieve military objectives. Manning a garrison is NOT combat, even if that garrison comes under periodic attack.

 

Stupid Tom!

Originally posted by: CharlesII

And as for your smear of me personally "you would be one of those thugs in the picture"...let me say a few things.  Breeching the capitol on January 6th was incredibly stupid after President Trump had asked supporters TO PEACEFULLY AND PATRIOTIALLY MARCH AND LET YOUR VOICES BE HEARD.  There were 250,000 Trump Supporters that day.  75 Million voted for him.  1500 trespassed into the capitol.

 

To blame every Trump supporter for the acts of a few is wrong. I'll admit I've done it on the other side and that was wrong too. Most Trump supporters actually agree with me that going into the Capitol that day was wrong....especially after Trump asked them to peacefully and patriotically protest.   But still, 1500 or so went into the Capitol.  It was a protest that turned into a riot.  Still, most of them were non-violent but some attacked police and destroyed property.  They all paid a heavy price. One of them was shot and killed. But Democrats have been exploiting that day ever since.  Turning it into the Greatest Threat to Democracy Ever and blaming all Trump voters for it...that's just bullshit and you know it.  

 

It would be like me claiming that "Since democrats supported the Black Lives Matter protests which often turned into riots therefore PJ supported those riots that killed 33 and caused 2 billion in damage".  So to make it even, I have to ask "Has PJ looted any Target Stores this year?".  See how that works?


Charles, when you support individuals or groups that commit an action, you are tacitly supporting that action...even if you later say that you oppose it. 

 

But you're right in one sense. It wasn't the murderous, traitorous riot and the orange thug that incited it. It was the MAGA refusal to condemn it. Remember how feeble their response was. "Ummm...errrr....maybe they shouldn't have done it...I guess..." by Moscow Mitch and a very few others. Imagine how much they would have bleated if it had been Democrats who had stormed the Capitol!

 

The threat to democracy isn't a potential repeat of the insurrection. It's the institution of Project 2025, which like Mein Kampf, people say it isn't really a plan. Then Hitler followed it to the letter. Trump is already showing that he plans to follow Project 2025 to the letter, as well (despite his disavowal; like anyone believes him, lol).


Charles - 

I didnt vote for any BLM orgaznizers of violence to high office.   You voted for the architect of Jan 6....and that was just the tip of the iceberg.   He led his supporters to Ruby Freeman's house to harrass her because he lied and told them she was stuffing ballot boxes.    He called up governors and asked them to find votes.  He coordinated with states to send fake electors to the Capital.   He demanded his VP decertify the election.    And when our justice system tried to hold him accountable for those actions people like you cried "lawfare" or some bullshit.    

 

Niicky Haley agrees with almost every policy position Trump holds.   And by every poll she would have destroyed either Biden or Harris in the election.   ...but you and the Republicans didnt care about policy.   You wanted payback for the "lawfare" against your militant thug asshole.   And you got your candidate over the finish line.    Good for you.  Please Spare us any bullshit about  how you think about wars and democracy.

 

I look forward to you defending Trump thugishly harrasssing his political opponents over the next 4 years.

 

 

Edited on Nov 16, 2024 3:29pm

You supported the BLM protests, right?  Most democrats did.  So, you own those riots if you can blame all 75 million Trump voters for the riot at the capitol…even most Republicans thought it was stupid and Trump asked his supporters to be peaceful.  Yet you call me a Thug for my vote?  Well fuck you.  You’re a looting arsonist then.  No difference in wild accusations.  It's a hasty generalization.  A logical fallacy. 

 

And 4 years?  WTF.  You guys have been telling us Trump is a dictator and there will be no more elections.  Bla, Bla, Bla.  All you got is the J6 and Orange Man Bad and smears. And I’d refute those arguments, but I don’t have the time to waste on you right now.  I actually work for a living and I’m not an old liberal white man like you and Kevin and Mark...living out your lives on a Vegas forum

 

 But this thread was about the DNI and LT Colonel Tulsi Gabbard and claims she and Trump are Russian assets because they want to end the war.  I find it telling how you never responded to my posts about Ukraine.  You never gave us your solution.  Is it the Biden plan?  Give them hundreds of billions of dollars and equipment every year for as long as it takes with 0 accountability?  To fight to the last Ukrainian?  Or do you want to escalate the effort.  Give them Nukes?  Boots on the ground?  F35s?. To insist they join NATA once the win the war?  Delusions.

 

 I showed how the German Chancellor has just reached out to Putin to try to get a negotiation going.  Yet you aren't calling him a Putin Stooge or claiming he wants to suck Putin's dick like you claim when Trump wants to negotiate for peace..  

 

Germany's Scholz discusses Ukraine with Russia's Putin in first such call in 2 years : NPR

 

And oh look.  Zelensky says Trump will help end the war sooner.  Of course, ending the war sooner is a real hit to the warmongering democrats here.  It just proves how you wasted billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives.  Could have had peace on better terms in 2022.  But it won't help your buddies the Cheneys and their investments in the Military Industrial Complex.  Prove to me how this war is winnable.  You can’t.  Because it isn’t and you have no common sense.  Democrats have lost their way.  And make no mistake, there are still lots of Republican NeoCons.  I hope more join the Cheneys and support the Democrats.  I think that helped Trump more than you realized.  You and Liz may be soul mates.  

 

Zelensky says Ukraine war will end ‘faster’ under Trump presidency | CNN

 

 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

What you consider, stupid Tom, is meaningless. Combat is when troops are actively fighting opponents to aachieve military objectives. Manning a garrison is NOT combat, even if that garrison comes under periodic attack.

 

Stupid Tom!


Stupid kevin - I am sure the families of those killed and wounded would understand the difference.

 

Here is an example of US combat

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2ld3wxeyqo

 

The US military says it has launched strikes on the Iranian-backed Houthi group in Yemen, hitting 15 targets. The Pentagon said it used aircraft and warships to launch the attacks in order "to protect freedom of navigation".

 

 

Originally posted by: CharlesII

You supported the BLM protests, right?  Most democrats did.  So, you own those riots if you can blame all 75 million Trump voters for the riot at the capitol…even most Republicans thought it was stupid and Trump asked his supporters to be peaceful.  Yet you call me a Thug for my vote?  Well fuck you.  You’re a looting arsonist then.  No difference in wild accusations.  It's a hasty generalization.  A logical fallacy. 

 

And 4 years?  WTF.  You guys have been telling us Trump is a dictator and there will be no more elections.  Bla, Bla, Bla.  All you got is the J6 and Orange Man Bad and smears. And I’d refute those arguments, but I don’t have the time to waste on you right now.  I actually work for a living and I’m not an old liberal white man like you and Kevin and Mark...living out your lives on a Vegas forum

 

 But this thread was about the DNI and LT Colonel Tulsi Gabbard and claims she and Trump are Russian assets because they want to end the war.  I find it telling how you never responded to my posts about Ukraine.  You never gave us your solution.  Is it the Biden plan?  Give them hundreds of billions of dollars and equipment every year for as long as it takes with 0 accountability?  To fight to the last Ukrainian?  Or do you want to escalate the effort.  Give them Nukes?  Boots on the ground?  F35s?. To insist they join NATA once the win the war?  Delusions.

 

 I showed how the German Chancellor has just reached out to Putin to try to get a negotiation going.  Yet you aren't calling him a Putin Stooge or claiming he wants to suck Putin's dick like you claim when Trump wants to negotiate for peace..  

 

Germany's Scholz discusses Ukraine with Russia's Putin in first such call in 2 years : NPR

 

And oh look.  Zelensky says Trump will help end the war sooner.  Of course, ending the war sooner is a real hit to the warmongering democrats here.  It just proves how you wasted billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives.  Could have had peace on better terms in 2022.  But it won't help your buddies the Cheneys and their investments in the Military Industrial Complex.  Prove to me how this war is winnable.  You can’t.  Because it isn’t and you have no common sense.  Democrats have lost their way.  And make no mistake, there are still lots of Republican NeoCons.  I hope more join the Cheneys and support the Democrats.  I think that helped Trump more than you realized.  You and Liz may be soul mates.  

 

Zelensky says Ukraine war will end ‘faster’ under Trump presidency | CNN

 

 


Thank you Charles for pointing out the obvious on so many levels. Karen Lewis is such a lying POS - anyone buying/believing anything he says is delusional - the facts dispute his lies.

Charles, you are indeed a worthless fucking thug for supporting the Capitol violence and the orange thug who incited it. Shame on you. Period.

 

And your stupid attempt to equate the BLM PROTESTS with the Capitol RIOT by calling the BLM protests "riots"...well, that's pretty stale. It's been tried before, over and over, on this forum and elsewhere. The BLM protests were NOT an attempt to overthrow the government; the vast majority of them were lawful and non-violent. I know you MAGA pigs LUVVVV to use false equivalence arguments, They're a weak tactic, and your argument is foolish.

 

Insofar as Ukraine is concerned: Trump hates Ukraine, because they refused to give in to his blackmail attempt, which got him impeached, and he LUVVS Putin, his man-bro. So given how Trump has been endlessly barking about punishing his enemies, how do you think he wants to end that war? Yes, with total surrender. He'll cut off all aid to Ukraine ASAP. The European nations might fill in the gap. Maybe.

 

And are you too stupid to realize that Zelensky's recent statement was just kissing Trump's ass, to possibly persuade him to not cut off aid? He has nothing to lose by trying that.

 

Oh, and Charles, I've worked all my adult life and I'm still working now, so fuck you, you nasty old Trumper scum. Enjoy your orange master's stumbles and blunders as he tries to become Emperor For Life.

Originally posted by: tom

Stupid kevin - I am sure the families of those killed and wounded would understand the difference.

 

Here is an example of US combat

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2ld3wxeyqo

 

The US military says it has launched strikes on the Iranian-backed Houthi group in Yemen, hitting 15 targets. The Pentagon said it used aircraft and warships to launch the attacks in order "to protect freedom of navigation".

 

 


That's not combat, stupid Tom. We're not at war with the Houthis.

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