Seems to me it is all designed to play into MAGA's schadenfreude, although I occasionally find a worthwhile article to read. Over all though it's all rinse and repeat, very rarely a different opion from the standard MAGA view.
Originally posted by: MaxFlavor
Seems to me it is all designed to play into MAGA's schadenfreude, although I occasionally find a worthwhile article to read. Over all though it's all rinse and repeat, very rarely a different opion from the standard MAGA view.
The truth does not change - the truth is the truth. The liberal media speaks with forked tongues, saying whatever the newest lie is and never admitting when they were wrong.
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh
5 million more people are retired today then in 2019. Tom complains those people should be working.... Retired people. Hence his "participation rate" statisitic. And this is where you should point and laugh.
Retired people by year
And job gains after the pandemic dont count? Who got to make that rule? If you use enough smoke and mirrors the FOX News narrative only looks half ridiculous.
Here is an article on the US Chamber of Commerce on why people didn't return to the workforce after the pandemic. https://www.uschamber.com/workforce/understanding-americas-labor-shortage
Unemployment.
Underemployment.
Jobs.
Job growth.
What are these? How are the numbers collected?
Seriously, I've always wondered. Just too lazy to do the work to find answers. Especially the first two. Thanks for any at least halfway unbiased answers.
Candy
And job gains after the pandemic dont count?
Biden calls it job creation. They are not created but these are jobs that were lost due to the business shutdown & as businesses reopened these jobs came back
People may be retiring as they always have but the working age population has been growing
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LFWA64TTUSM647S
Originally posted by: David Miller
The truth does not change - the truth is the truth. The liberal media speaks with forked tongues, saying whatever the newest lie is and never admitting when they were wrong.
I am quoting NPR, certainly a biased news source, but they're quoting Murdoch under oath in court admissible testimony. Forked tongue? Yes. Not admiting Fox News was wrong? Yes. Paying $787 million so the lies don't come out in court? Yes.
NPR Feb 28, 2023
"Speaking under oath, Murdoch confirmed the suggestion by a Dominion lawyer that Fox was "trying to straddle the line between spewing conspiracy theories on one hand, yet calling out the fact that they are actually false on the other."" Forked Tongue.
"Asked by a Dominion attorney whether "Fox endorsed at times this false notion of a stolen election," Murdoch demurred, saying, "Not Fox, no. Not Fox. But maybe Lou Dobbs, maybe Maria [Bartiromo] as commentators.""
Not admitting Fox News was wrong.
"The lawyer pressed on. Did Fox's Bartiromo endorse it?
Murdoch's reply: "Yes. C'mon."
Fox News host Jeanine Pirro? "I think so."
Then-Fox Business Network host Dobbs? "Oh, a lot."
Fox News prime-time star Sean Hannity? "A bit."
Pressed whether they endorsed the narrative of a stolen election, Murdoch finally gave in: "Yes. They endorsed."" Get out the check book, we're gonna write a big one!
Originally posted by: MaxFlavor
I am quoting NPR, certainly a biased news source, but they're quoting Murdoch under oath in court admissible testimony. Forked tongue? Yes. Not admiting Fox News was wrong? Yes. Paying $787 million so the lies don't come out in court? Yes.
NPR Feb 28, 2023
"Speaking under oath, Murdoch confirmed the suggestion by a Dominion lawyer that Fox was "trying to straddle the line between spewing conspiracy theories on one hand, yet calling out the fact that they are actually false on the other."" Forked Tongue.
"Asked by a Dominion attorney whether "Fox endorsed at times this false notion of a stolen election," Murdoch demurred, saying, "Not Fox, no. Not Fox. But maybe Lou Dobbs, maybe Maria [Bartiromo] as commentators.""
Not admitting Fox News was wrong.
"The lawyer pressed on. Did Fox's Bartiromo endorse it?
Murdoch's reply: "Yes. C'mon."
Fox News host Jeanine Pirro? "I think so."
Then-Fox Business Network host Dobbs? "Oh, a lot."
Fox News prime-time star Sean Hannity? "A bit."
Pressed whether they endorsed the narrative of a stolen election, Murdoch finally gave in: "Yes. They endorsed."" Get out the check book, we're gonna write a big one!
You cite one instance - what about all of the Russia!Russia!, false impeachments , tax record and other multiple instances of lying the liberal media did and continues to do? Fox paid dearly for what they did - meanwhile the lying liberal media continues to get a pass while people continue to believe their lies.
Originally posted by: tom
As usual numbers without context.
January 2020 job participation rate 61.1%. It is now 60.2% (BLS)
April number of people working is 161.5m. Last fall it was 161.9. The jobs being created are part time & going to the people who already have jobs (YC charts).
Prior to the pandemic 158.9m people were working. (YC Charts) Then the pandemic came of which Trump had no control over what happened, The jobs that biden claimed he created are actually jobs that were brought back after the country reopened. Less than 3m jobs have been added to the Jan 2020 high.
Do you really believe this analysis of employment? If you do, you have extremely weak skills of analysis. Or perhaps you are just simply a Trump toady bending statistics to reach a predeterminer point.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART
Originally posted by: David Miller
You cite one instance - what about all of the Russia!Russia!, false impeachments , tax record and other multiple instances of lying the liberal media did and continues to do? Fox paid dearly for what they did - meanwhile the lying liberal media continues to get a pass while people continue to believe their lies.
I've already addressed your Russia question previously, I don't want a President that would willingly work with a foreign government to win an election. Trumps campaign met with Russia to discuss info they may have had on Clinton. It's a fact.
I believe both impeachments were called for, although I'm a layman and not a lawyer. When Zelensky asked about getting weapons from the US and Trump immidiately follows that question with a request to investigate Biden, that's a concern for me. It was all in the partial transcipt that the Trump White House released.
Tax record?
I'll ask you about your thoughts on all the instances Fox News, AON and Newsmax lied? Do you really believe they only lied once? Do you have any record of testimony under oath, settlements or convictions from the liberal media going after Trump with a campaing of lies?
Originally posted by: MaxFlavor
I've already addressed your Russia question previously, I don't want a President that would willingly work with a foreign government to win an election. Trumps campaign met with Russia to discuss info they may have had on Clinton. It's a fact.
I believe both impeachments were called for, although I'm a layman and not a lawyer. When Zelensky asked about getting weapons from the US and Trump immidiately follows that question with a request to investigate Biden, that's a concern for me. It was all in the partial transcipt that the Trump White House released.
Tax record?
I'll ask you about your thoughts on all the instances Fox News, AON and Newsmax lied? Do you really believe they only lied once? Do you have any record of testimony under oath, settlements or convictions from the liberal media going after Trump with a campaing of lies?
It is apparent that you have drank the kool-aid. All one really has to do is take off the rose colored glasses, look around and think back to how America was prior to brain dead Biden and how things are now in America and the world.
