Federal Judge Freezes Trumpster’s Deportation Flights

Originally posted by: CharlesII

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This is incorrect.  If you read the actual law (50 U.S.C. 21), it states:  "Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event".  

 

Now read President Trumps proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798

 

Invocation of the Alien Enemies Act Regarding the Invasion of The United States by Tren De Aragua – The White House

 

The proclamation makes the case that this is indeed a 'predatory incursion', and that Tren De Aragua is a an officially designated foreign terrorist organization conducting irregular warfare against the United States and that this terrorist organization is tied to the Government of Venezuala.

 

As Commander in Chief and constitutionally responsible for US foreign policy how is this not within his power to make this determination and invoke this law?

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Originally posted by: Edso

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When did Congress delare war, Charles?  The first part of the law, which you DIDN'T highlight, specifically mentions a declared war.....which can only be done by Congress.

 

So, to answer your question, he can't invoke this law because there has been no war declared by Congress.....despite the fact that Tren De Aragua is not actually a foreign nation or government.  

 

 

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Originally posted by: CharlesII

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This is incorrect.  If you read the actual law (50 U.S.C. 21), it states:  "Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event".  

 

Now read President Trumps proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798

 

Invocation of the Alien Enemies Act Regarding the Invasion of The United States by Tren De Aragua – The White House

 

The proclamation makes the case that this is indeed a 'predatory incursion', and that Tren De Aragua is a an officially designated foreign terrorist organization conducting irregular warfare against the United States and that this terrorist organization is tied to the Government of Venezuala.

 

As Commander in Chief and constitutionally responsible for US foreign policy how is this not within his power to make this determination and invoke this law?

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Originally posted by: Mark

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Your arguments are uninformed and ignorant. The only way Trump can win his argument is if Trump convinces the Supereme Court to overturn precedent and come up with a word salad definition of Foreign Nation or Government.  The fact that he ignored the Judge's order, tells me he knows the act doesn't apply. 

 

 

 

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Originally posted by: Edso

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Trump, David and his MAGA ilk don't care about precedent or laws, and forget about the Constitution....Wanna be dictators don't need no stinkin' Constitution. 

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Originally posted by: David Miller

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   I find it amazing that Pinocchio Lewis, Edso the reneger, and ambulance chaser Mark appear to be definding  these murderers, rapists, and criminals who are not  American citizens. 

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Originally posted by: Edso

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Trump, David and his MAGA ilk don't care about precedent or laws, and forget about the Constitution....Wanna be dictators don't need no stinkin' Constitution. 

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Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

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Has even one of the persons Trump illegally deported been accused, let alone convicted in a court of law, of murder, rape, or other criminal offenses? Remember, dumb fuck asshole Davey Dog, Trump bellowing about someone doesn't make them a criminal.

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