The follow-up question NO Trumper can actually answer

I see.  So you are mad as a lifelong left of Marx kind of guy about how Trump rolled out the vaccine but yet you blame Biden for it? 

Trump didn't censor people regarding the vaccine, didn't protect the lies about the vaccine origins, didn't keep touting the vaccine for all age groups even as other countries pulled back, didn't allow dirty tricks nonsense to shut down people like Brand or Aaron Rodgers, didn't allow Maddow and company to blatantly lie repeatedly on network television, didn't allow the "Ivermectin is horse paste" nonsense, which the FDA has had to cease-and-desist by virtue of the courts.

The Trump administration bears some blame, but the worst clearly came under Biden. 

Nobody was censored by Biden. As someone who tested postive for COVID twice, I am greatful for the vaccine. The first time it felt like the standard flu.  The second time it felt like just a mild cold. 

I hate to think what it would have been like if I hadn't taken it.  A gal I went to high school with was a big anti-vaxxer.  She posted the same kind of nonsense anti-vaxxer stuff you are talking about day after day on Facebook. Then she dissappeared from Facebook.  She came back a month and a half later and confessed she had been gone because her husband caught COVID.

He was in intensive care for a month on a ventilator. He did  wake up but is permanently disabled now. They lost their house and cars and basically everything else. 

 I also remember all those stories of those poor saps who believed the same conspiracy crap you do showing up at the ER and as they are about to be put on the vent ask how this is possible because COVID isnt real.

For 2024 Trump has promised to make polio great again.

That some people said mean things about Aaron Rogers and Russell Brand are very good reasons to vote against President Biden, according to you, right?

Robert, I think that sums you up completely! (Except that expounding on beliefs that are far afield makes you feel very special.)

The vaccine IS safe AND effective...it wasn't a lie to say so.

If that somehow turns you into a Trumper, well...I'm guessing anything could have done it, even a burnt piece of toast with your breakfast.

Trump held vanity rallies amidst the most contagious virus in our lifetimes...and cheered the thugs who plotted to kidnap the governor of Michigan because she told people to wear masks.

and when he got sick he utilized all the CDC  treatments he told the public to be skeptical of....just like he took the vaccine he told the public to be skeptical of.     He didn't use Ivermectin or bleach to treat his Covid.

but if you think Biden was worse because he touted the medical effectiveness of the vaccine which data has since confirmed....well, ok then.    It's a free country.  

Mark:  Did you take the vaccine before the first and second time you got it?  Or in between the first and second time?

I caught it the first time a few months after the first shot and then I took the second shot.  So by the time I caught it the 2nd time, I had two shots and some natural immunity from the first time.

 The second time I wouldn't have even know I had it but a family member tested postive so I decided to get tested.  I just had a runny nose and a mild sore throat at night. 

I may have dodged a bullet there. We (Portland) shut down almost earlier than anyone else. The effect was...when Idaho's governor told everyone to not wear masks and later, to refuse vaccines, hospitals in Spokane, Seattle, and Portland were flooded with Idaho covid patients. So it was hard to get treatment at the height of the pandemic.

I got my shots the morning they became available. Didn't screw around, and neither did anyone else--the line was massive, and they had twenty-four drive-up vax stations.

I never even felt any covid symptoms. But I may have contracted it very early in the game, when I was in bed for two weeks, exhausted--but no other symptoms.

Hi PJ.  Trump's treatment for Covid 19 included, at that time, the Regeneron experimental monoclonal antibodies treatment which was provided under what is called "compassionate use" thru the FDA outside of clinical trials for those with life-threatening conditions or serious diseases.  It wasn't authorized by the CDC or available to the general public.  The following is a study published in JAMA Network showing the lack of effectiveness of ivermectin among those with mild and moderate cases of Covid 19 even at elevated doses of the drug.  https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2801827?resultClick=1  Trump hyped hydroxycholoquine.  Even thought the FDA did give hydroxicholoquine an EUA from March to June of 2022, this 2023 article in Drugs.com highlights the ineffectiveness of it as a treatment for Covid 19.  https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-3536024/.  Both these treatments were touted by the America's Frontline Doctors.  This is an article about these voodoo doctors.   https://time.com/6092368/americas-frontline-doctors-covid-19-misinformation/.  The following is a article of a study that estimates the more than 3 million lives in the US.  https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-vaccines-saved-3-2-162037398.html.  I have never questioned being vaccinated multiple times with the Covid 19 MRNA vaccine and sleep fine every night.