The follow-up question NO Trumper can actually answer

Originally posted by: Robert Davis

Hi PJ.  Trump's treatment for Covid 19 included, at that time, the Regeneron experimental monoclonal antibodies treatment which was provided under what is called "compassionate use" thru the FDA outside of clinical trials for those with life-threatening conditions or serious diseases.  It wasn't authorized by the CDC or available to the general public.  The following is a study published in JAMA Network showing the lack of effectiveness of ivermectin among those with mild and moderate cases of Covid 19 even at elevated doses of the drug.  https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2801827?resultClick=1  Trump hyped hydroxycholoquine.  Even thought the FDA did give hydroxicholoquine an EUA from March to June of 2022, this 2023 article in Drugs.com highlights the ineffectiveness of it as a treatment for Covid 19.  https://www.drugs.com/medical-answers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-3536024/.  Both these treatments were touted by the America's Frontline Doctors.  This is an article about these voodoo doctors.   https://time.com/6092368/americas-frontline-doctors-covid-19-misinformation/.  The following is a article of a study that estimates the more than 3 million lives in the US.  https://www.yahoo.com/news/covid-vaccines-saved-3-2-162037398.html.  I have never questioned being vaccinated multiple times with the Covid 19 MRNA vaccine and sleep fine every night. 


Mr. Davis, here's the scary part. Do you really think I haven't read most of these? That's what's frightening. 

 

Virtually all of the Ivermectin studies, including these, have used dosages and intervals and starting times that would be great except for the fact that no Ivermectin advocate would recommend these dosages, intervals or starting times. The studies, on the face of them, are mostly a joke. And I'm not even an Ivermectin advocate,but I can read. If Ivermectin advocates say do protocol A and the US govt funds protocol not-A to decide whether Ivermectin "works for Covid," there's a problem. I have no idea if it works, but I'm pretty damned certain these studies would not be the way to decide.

 

That 3-million lives article is great, except it gets quoted over and over and over in pro-vaccine advocacy (and it's the only one of its kind), while similar pieces with actual estimates of vaccine deaths at 15 to 17 million (worldwide) get...surprise, surprise, surprise as Gomer Pyle said, no air time on CNN and no play in the NY Times. In addition, when that 3 million paper gets mentioned in national media, usually it's in an "opinion piece." What does that mean? It means the article is being promulgated in a piece that feels no obligation to quote, or even mention, competing or dissenting articles of the same kind. Check it out. That 3 Million piece got mentioned at the tail end of the latest NY Times opinion piece, with no mention of competing papers with different estimates. Why? Because, drumroll, it's an opinion piece and not a scientific paper.This has been going on repeatedly. The anti-Aaron Rodgers pieces have been "opinion pieces." This way, the authors and the NY Times can wash their hands of the responsibility of providing a reasonable survey of most information. Opinion pieces are, after all, opinion pieces. It's propaganda of the most obvious kind, but we're too dumb or too committed to acknowledge that.

 

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch. I suggest expanding research horizons. If you want, I can provide a handful of (yes, vaccinated) doctors who are horrified by what has transpired and provide even-handed evaluations of the problems with Covid-19 vaccines.

The bonehead aspect of the anti-vax movement is considering "no one will die" as the equivalent of "safe." No one has EVER promised that ANY vaccine would be 100% effective. Abd when Biden said it was safe, he meant that it would have no harmful side effects. I believe exactly one person in the US died as a direct result of being vaccinated.

With a 30 year background in conducting research studies and statistical analysis, I would be very happy to look at any double blind study conducted showing the effectiveness of ivermectin at any prescribed level or any other problems with the vaccine with a statistically relevant sample size and a 95% confidence interval.  I rely upon studies published in major medical publications that can be peer reviewed.  I'm happy to read your studies that show 15 to 17 million vaccine deaths that were published by medical sources with statistic analysis included. 

Edited on May 25, 2024 10:20am
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

The bonehead aspect of the anti-vax movement is considering "no one will die" as the equivalent of "safe." No one has EVER promised that ANY vaccine would be 100% effective. Abd when Biden said it was safe, he meant that it would have no harmful side effects. I believe exactly one person in the US died as a direct result of being vaccinated.


You'll really find this article about Denis Rancourt who is the person claiming that 15 million people died from the vaccine.  He states in this interview, "I'm not convinced that viruses exist."  For him, all the excess deaths had to be from the vaccine since there was no pandemic due to the Covid-19 virus never existing.  https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/denis-rancourt-and-no-virus-covid-19-symptoms-were-due-psychological-stress-from-the-pandemic-response/


Originally posted by: Robert Davis

You'll really find this article about Denis Rancourt who is the person claiming that 15 million people died from the vaccine.  He states in this interview, "I'm not convinced that viruses exist."  For him, all the excess deaths had to be from the vaccine since there was no pandemic due to the Covid-19 virus never existing.  https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/denis-rancourt-and-no-virus-covid-19-symptoms-were-due-psychological-stress-from-the-pandemic-response/


I'm not going to bother to read some fanciful nonsense about a clown who denies a basic fact of medicine that has been verified countless times.

 

But here's something I'd like to ask dum-dum Dennis (and you, if you give his idiot shit a shred of credibility)--since most antiviral vaccines are essentially inert (or weakened) copies of viruses designed to train the body should it encounter the real thing, does that mean that the vaccines contain something that doesn't exist? What's in the syringes, then--phlogiston?

 

Aside from the relative novelty of the sheer tenacity of covid-19 and its penchant for mutation, it was really nothing new in viral medicine. It was dealt with in the way and fashion expected. End of story.

 

Oh, and for those who think it "escaped" from a secret lab deep in the land of those terrible heathen Chinee, I would ask--1) pretty crappy bioweapon that kills 0.5% of the population, eh? 2) do ya know what a zoonotic virus is and where it comes from?

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Q: You say you plan to vote for Trump this time around. Why?

A: Well, he'd be better for the economy than Biden.

Q: Why? How so? What would he do?

 

(crickets)

 

It's truly amazing that millions of cementheads have this vague vision of Trump as savior of the economy and bringer of forty-cent gas (or something) without ANY idea of how he would supposedly bring that about.

 

We're a nation of idiots and will get the leader we deserve.


Hindsight is 20/20.  Things were better under Trump.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Hindsight is 20/20.  Things were better under Trump.


You point out the idiotic nature of Boilerthink when you use the word "under." Trump didn't, and Biden doesn't, rule the United States. Thus, neither had or has all that much effect on the economy. Republicans are bleating that the opposite is true, and if you don't like the price of gas, just vote for Trump and everything will be as cheap as it was six years ago.

 

Riiiiight.

 

But as far as whether things were "better"--a ridiculously vague and therefore meaningless term--im making 65 percent more for doing the same work I did in 2019. So, yay being "under" Biden!!

 

Did Biden use exucutive order to allow unlimited immigration and if not how did it happen?

Edited on May 29, 2024 3:45pm
Originally posted by: Boilerman

Did Biden use exucutive order to allow unlimited immigration and if not how did it happen?


Of course not. And it didn't happen---there is no such thing as "unlimited immigration."

 

There have been more deportations in three years of the Biden administration than there were in four years of the Trump administration!

My personal belief is that many posting here are at least somewhat lacking in the legal nuts and bolt of 1) immigration, 2) 'illegal' immigration, 3) asylum, 4) border control, 5) deportation, and other related systems.   

 

But some are good for laughs...just knowing how idiotic they sound.  I believe most build their "knowledge" heavy with personal opinions and bias, which is fine as long as they have no real influence on the workings of any of those systems.  That would scare me.

 

Candy

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