For Those Who Still Doubt Trump Is A Horrible Person.

 i. Once again Kevin Lewis does not identify the "treason" of which he accuses President Trump.

 

ii. From the BBC:

"The 448-page [Mueller]  report painted a mixed picture of the president's conduct. While it did not establish that the Trump campaign criminally conspired with Russia to meddle in the election, it built an extensive obstruction-of-justice case against the president. 

Mr Mueller said the report did not exonerate the president but stopped short of saying Mr Trump committed a crime.

Ref: BBC

 

No crime, no treason.

 

Edited on Sep 2, 2019 4:02am

The essence of the Mueller report is that his investigation found no evidence of treason by Trump, but also did not exonerate him.

 

That's not unlike you smell pot smoke in your son's bedroom, and you want until he's gone and search his room, but find no pot. That doesn't mean he wasn't smoking it; it means you weren't able to find it.

 

I go by the simple facts: that Trump openly encouraged the Russians to interfere in the election, that his campaign lackeys met with Russian spies on at least two occasions, and that the Russian interference was targeted to favor Trump and hurt his opponent. I agree, circumstantial. But circumstantial evidence is enough if it's massive and incontrovertible, as in the Trump treason case.

 

But what does logic matter? Trumpers will never acknowledge that their Golden One did anything wrong, even if we see a video of Trump giving Putin a blowjob.

Kevin Lewis writes: "The essence of the Mueller report is that his investigation found no evidence of treason by Trump, but also did not exonerate him."

 

Exoneration is not necessary.

"One of the most sacred principles in the American criminal justice system, [is] holding that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. In other words, the prosecution must prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, each essential element of the crime charged."

Ref: Cornell Law School

 

Unlike the, perhaps unfortunate, parents searching their son's bedroom and detecting the arome of cannibis and assuming guilt, . . . the President is indeed, innocent until proven guilty of any treasonous behavior.

 

Unless, of course Kevin Lewis and his brethren choose to make an exception because, well, . . . after all, . . . this is Trump ! ! !

Edited on Sep 4, 2019 8:49am

Don't put words in my mouth, Donnie-poo. Trump is indeed technically innocent. The same way OJ Simpson was found to be "not guilty" of murdering his wife and her friend.

 

Does that mean that any reasonable person would assume anything other than that Trump did, indeed commit the crime? Of course not. The nature of our criminal justice system means that often, criminals will go free. That's a cost we're willing to pay as a society.

 

I would like to point out the hypocrisy of Trumpers being unwilling to accept the findings of the Benghazi investigation against Hillary, or for that matter, evidence debunking the Obama birther theory. Republicans only like the system when it works in their favor.

 

I know Trump is a traitor. YOU know Trump is a traitor. The only question is whether you're willing to acknowledge that. He's not going to reward you for your loyalty, you know.


Kevin, what is Trump guilty of, even if not able to be convicted?

Sigh.

 

Treason. Encouraging a foreign power to attack our country and then abetting that attack.

 

I can only IMAGINE how all you Trumpers would have been wetting your pants if OBAMA had done that, or anything even close. For that matter, imagine if Obama had ignored subpoenas, made millions of dollars forcing the government to patronize his businesses, or committed any of the dozens of other crimes Trump has while in office.

 

I remember how conservatives worshipped Reagan for being the white knight who fearlessly slew the Russian dragon. I guess Russia isn't the Evil Empire any more, and Putin with his topless physique is making Trumpie swoon.

How funny Kevin.

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin.  Let me ask but two simple questions of you......first, who was the President during the 2016 election?  You know, when the Russians were tampering with our elections.  HINT, it wasn't Donald Trump.  Second, who was the guy who insisted that Mitt Romney should give the 90's back their foreign policies?  You know, the part where Russia was an evil empire?  HINT, it wasn't George W. Bush.

What does who is/was President at any given time have to do with whether or not a crime was committed by Trump? He invited attacks on our country, and aided those attacks, while a private citizen. Yes, Obama was President at the time. Treason can be and often is committed by people who don't hold public office--like Trump in 2016.

 

Your second question is too poorly worded for me to answer. "Insisted that Mitt Romney give the 90's back their foreign policies?" I'm sorry, I can only answer questions worded in English, with fathomable grammar.

 

But I do nonetheless get the point you're trying to make. It doesn't matter what Trump did, because Obama did it, too. Even if true...so goddamn what? That someone else supposedly committed a crime isn't a valid defense against being accused of that crime.

 

Also, one of Trump's signature defenses against accusations of wrongdoing in general is to bleat, "HIM TOO! HIM TOO!" or "THEM TOO! THEM TOO!" Your third grade teacher nipped that one in the bud, but Trump never made it out of third grade, apparently. Why should you imitate him?

Originally posted by: Boilerman

How funny Kevin.


It's anything but funny when the President is a criminal (and I'm not referring only to his treason). Trumpers may be amused that Trump considers himself above the law. Once again, I can only imagine the howls of indignation from conservatives if Obama had done one tenth of what Trump is doing.

 

To contrast the two 2016 candidates, Trump attacked our country. Clinton...sent emails. But Republicans manufactured far more outrage about the latter than the former.

 

You'll give Trump a free pass no matter what he does. That means that you and other Trumpers aren't really Americans.

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