Frustrated with our education system

Originally posted by: tom

Mark - all lies. 

The schools are open to all students and they don't select the students; they are chosen by lottery with 163k on waiting lists. 70% of charter students are minorities. 10% are ELL and 20.% have disabilities. Schools are located in the lowest income areas. 

The typical school day is 7:30 to 4 plus after school programs. 

With less money they outperform NYC public schools. 

On the other hand the regular public schools enrollment is down 15%


Tom--all lies.

 

Maybe you could pull a Tom-stat out of your ass to show how those schools "outperform" others.

Tom here is the latest charter school scandal in Indiana where the taxpayers were taken for a 44 million dollar ride. The schools student to teacher ratio was 222-1.

 

https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/percy-clark-guilty-indiana-virtual-schools-pathway-academy-fraud

I already showed the stat; easily available from NYS Ed dept 

 

Stupid Kevin has trouble with stats and facts 

Edited on Dec 8, 2025 9:53am
Originally posted by: tom

I already showed the stat; easily available from NYS Ed dept 

 

Stupid Kevin has trouble with stats and facts 


And what Tom-stat shows that outperformance you bleat about?


Data doesnt lie.   If you graduated from a blue state public school then you should be educated enough to see the pattern in the below results.

 

2025 States with best/worst public schools

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

 

 

Top 10:

Massachusetts 1st
New York          2nd
New Jersey      3rd
Washington      4th
Pennsylvania    5th
Vermont            6th
Minnesota        7th
Connecticut     8th
Virginia            9th
Wisconsin       10th
 
Bottom 10:
Florida             41st
Louisiana        42nd
Indiana            43rd
Nevada            44th
Arkansas         45th
West Virginia    46th
Idaho               47th
Oklahoma       48th
New Mexico    49th
Alabama           50th
Arizona            51st

 

 

 

Edited on Dec 8, 2025 10:10am
Originally posted by: Mark

Tom here is the latest charter school scandal in Indiana where the taxpayers were taken for a 44 million dollar ride. The schools student to teacher ratio was 222-1.

 

https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/percy-clark-guilty-indiana-virtual-schools-pathway-academy-fraud


Oh my.  Mark obviously asked Google for the biggest lie in history.  This is why fewer people trust Liberals.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Data doesnt lie.   If you graduated from a blue state public school then you should be educated enough to see the pattern in the below results.

 

2025 States with best/worst public schools

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

 

 

Top 10:

Massachusetts 1st
New York          2nd
New Jersey      3rd
Washington      4th
Pennsylvania    5th
Vermont            6th
Minnesota        7th
Connecticut     8th
Virginia            9th
Wisconsin       10th
 
Bottom 10:
Florida             41st
Louisiana        42nd
Indiana            43rd
Nevada            44th
Arkansas         45th
West Virginia    46th
Idaho               47th
Oklahoma       48th
New Mexico    49th
Alabama           50th
Arizona            51st

 

 

 


Yet my town spends 1/3 of what it costs to not educate Chicago students.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Data doesnt lie.   If you graduated from a blue state public school then you should be educated enough to see the pattern in the below results.

 

2025 States with best/worst public schools

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

 

 

Top 10:

Massachusetts 1st
New York          2nd
New Jersey      3rd
Washington      4th
Pennsylvania    5th
Vermont            6th
Minnesota        7th
Connecticut     8th
Virginia            9th
Wisconsin       10th
 
Bottom 10:
Florida             41st
Louisiana        42nd
Indiana            43rd
Nevada            44th
Arkansas         45th
West Virginia    46th
Idaho               47th
Oklahoma       48th
New Mexico    49th
Alabama           50th
Arizona            51st

 

 

 


I would use average SAT/ACT scores as the metric.  PJ chooses some fluff metric.  Try again.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Oh my.  Mark obviously asked Google for the biggest lie in history.  This is why fewer people trust Liberals.


He pled guilty and admitted it. 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

And what Tom-stat shows that outperformance you bleat about?


And once again kevin shows his lack of reading skills.

 

NYC Charter Schools Results 2024 The 2024-25 school year results for NYC charter schools show a significant improvement in student proficiency compared to their NYC district counterparts. In English Language Arts (ELA), charter schools achieved a proficiency rate of 58.2%, In Mathematics, the proficiency rate for charter schools was 66.3%. Notably, Black and Hispanic charter school students outperformed their district peers in both ELA and Math, with Black charter students scoring proficient at 65.9% compared to 38.4% in the district, and Hispanic students at 63.7% compared to 39.7%. These results reflect the continued success of NYC charter schools and their impact on student achievement. - New York City Charter School Center

 

PJ- the discussion was on NYC public schools; the rest of the state covers for the city's poor performance.  

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