Gas prices dropping like a rock

The government is subsidizing the EV car manufacturers...grants and loans totalling $12B as of late August for this specific use. So, we the public ( via tax revenues) are paying for a commodity that there is currently little demand for. There are additional individual tax incentives to persuade the potential EV car consumers, too. It's a huge machine partially funded, backed, and pushed by DC.gov. I don't see a way / means to stop it..other than at the polling booths. The green behemoth machine won't likely be stopped..maybe just slowed down a little; private and governmental investment / will is too well fueled.

Obviously oil and gas manufacturing have been and are subsidized as well..but there is widespread public demand for the products. Big difference for people paying taxes during a time of inflation.

Or he will state he schooled someone as he slithers away.  I do notice you always post tons of links and all Kevin has is his boasting and telling us all how smart he is.  I think we all need to start referring to him LAM again.  It really is the perfect nickname.  I mean, how little of an angry man must you be to sit on a Las Vegas forum 24/7 and just go on and on 365 days a year?  He is trying to drastically make up for something missing in his life now or lifetime so far.  That is pretty clear.  

Remember when LAM said he wasn't going to talk to us anymore?  That was a pleasant 24 hours. 😀

Links to nonsense prove nothing. You four Shortbus fools aren't worth the attention that you so obviously crave.

I mean, what sickos you are, to be so desperate for attention that you start nonsensical arguments, hoping to provoke a reaction. You're all like a toddler that wanders into a crowd and starts kicking people.

But I want to provide you with some therapy, if only to protect the people around you. The Shortbus Gang is absolutely right about everything.

Feel better? Tell your bedmate Tom that all his links are DA TROOTY TROOT.

Charles, you may not see much demand for EVs wherever it is you live, but gas prices, I'm guessing, are relatively low there. Given your political, uh, views, I'm guessing that you live in a smallish bucktoothed inbred Trumper town. Anyone who bought an EV would be beaten up by MAGAs. But where I live, the fossil fuel companies charge beaucoup bucks to fill your tank-- and EVs are regarded as socially conscious.

So it's both social and economic. The benefits of EVs, though, are beyond dispute. I know the stupid Tommie-poos of this world will never accept them.

I for one am tired of emptying my wallet into my gas tank so that the corporations that hold Tom's leash (and yours?) can make maximum profits. I likewise refuse to vote for the party that wants to keep them rich.

Is that what it is for you, Charles? Own a bunch of oil stocks?

And we subsidize combustion engine vehicle to a much larger degree - in terms of fossil fuel tax breaks/subsidies ....but much more so in giving foreign aid to countries whose only benefit to the US is oil price stability.   Your 12 billion dollar figure is what we give Saudi Arabia annually alone.    

There is an arms race for who will lead the next generation of tech - EV cars, renewable energy, AI, and the mining resources for all of them.    You can choose to have the US invest and lead...or you can surrender them to China.    I choose the former.  But its a free country Charles - you can vote however you want.   

Please explain the tax breaks & subsidies.   Federal, state local govt collect $100Bper year in gas taxes. With ev cars that goes away. 

Pj is upset about buying oil from the Saudis but is willing to pay China billions for ev batteries so they can fund their invasion of an ally. 

Most of the personal answers to your posed questions / insinuations are none of your business. I just simply don't like the government forcing personal choice of transportation ( or anything else, for that matter) on the public at  massive transformational cost to taxpayers. That is further occurring at a time when the US infrastructure is not capable of or ready to accommodate widespread use of full battery dependent EV's ( particularly for high milage trips due to current battery issues,charging station availabilities, and initial EV purchase prices among other reasons). I don't have any delusions that this transition won't happen / take place, and I don't have a problem with innovation. I just think this thing is now forced on us when we're not ready for it. Further, I don't think all the costs associated with this transition to EV's have been tabulated ( or they have but haven't been presented to us).

Further, we have an in-place infrastructure for gas vehicles..and we have an infinite amount of available raw resources in the ground when / where accessible to accommodate supply to support it. I don't have a problem with alternate plans to gradually add EV's to the mix in the interim for consumers who might want to choose that option for their personal use. But this transition is being forced on us when you consider the incentives and it's all overpriced. It's just an up-front and visible aspect of the green transition mandates we're now exposed to. EV debates escalate into an entire realm of other green moves( aka the almighty climate change thing

Charles, you're confusing "incentivized" with "forced." Also, you seem to be vehemently opposed to any attempts to improve the environment--which is your choice. But one can only coherently rave and rail against EVs if one completely ignores the environmental benefits. Which is a very conservative way to approach reality.

The infrastructure for a partial transition to EVs--and despite all the agitated kerfuffling, that's all it's going to be for a decade or more--already exists. The expense will be nominal. 

I also see a benefit in loosening the stranglehold that the fossil fuel industry has and has had on American economy, politics, culture, military, etc. etc. etc. Do you think those companies should continue to dominate our lives? To have and wield the power that they do?

In any event, Charles, you'll still be able to drive your Ford Behemoth--and you'll enjoy dramatically lower gas prices. Everybody wins!

You're complaining about taxes going away?  I thought Republicans liked that.   Governments can change how gas taxes get swapped out...many states already have an EV vehicle tax which replaces the revenue.  Its not rocket science.   

And I'm not for paying China for EV batteries...thats why I supported the infrastructure bill that invests in building them here.   People who supported blocking that law (you) are the ones who want to surrender to China.  

Progress happens and you can lead our follow.   Tom wants to follow.   Too bad for him.    But its a free country.