Georgia gun nut who gave his kid a rifle charged with murder and manslaughter

Originally posted by: jstewa22

---

But don't you remember Trump's address to the NRA a few years ago?  He had a solution:  arm more law-obiding citizens.

---

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

---

About goddamn time that gun love was punished for the murderous aberration that it is! Amazingly, the parents of a school shooter kid have only been charged once before--in Michigan, where they were convicted.

 

While this isn't going to make conservitards reconsider their gun love/anti-gun safety crusade, it MIGHT make them think twice about giving little Johnny an AK-47 for his fourth birthday.

 

Australia banned gun ownership about a decade ago, and their gun death rate is 1/12th that of the US. But the Republihole Second Amendment crusaders want gun death. They're getting it!

---

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

---

I applaud the concept of holding parents legally and financially accountable for a school shooting by their kid. 

 

Lots of print, TV, psycho time and other media have put forward the importance of 'see something, say something', that often a classmate or friend knows of a serious utterance or social media posting that in retrospect was prophetic.  Of course that is important, but in fact that hasn't worked so very well.   

 

Maybe just my reading, but the most common denominator appears to be guns easily available to the kid, especially where a KNOWN troubled teen lives.  Hold the parents accountable where it hurts.  JMHO.

 

Candy

---

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

---

Well, it's impractical for law enforcement to go chasing after and interrogating every kid who posts some sort of violence fantasy on social media; they'd never get anything else done. So I don't know if "see something, say something" has any real effect, except, as you say, in retrospect. There are indeed warning signs.

 

So I would rather go after the source, as it were. First of all, yes, the parents, and any other adults responsible for the kids. You KNOW that a school shooter kid comes from a home where gun violence is not only condoned but also glorified. Many of these kid shooters were playing with guns--target practice, hunting, etc.--at a very young age. That makes a child "comfortable" with guns and rather blase about the fact that the purpose of a gun is to kill.

 

The ultimate source, though, is the gun love lobby. A shockingly small segment of society/corporate America has managed to control the narrative, and in most cases legislation, so that we're still in the Wild West. Many idiots think that's desirable. 

 

And I've said it before, but the Second Amendment does NOT give individuals the right to own or wield guns. It gives the PEOPLE the right to raise a militia and to collect and store arms for that purpose. Anyone who can read would understand that--the Amendment is very specifically worded. But in one of several historically horrible decisions, SCOTUS drastically expanded the language of the Amendment. Now, it's legal for someone to go into WalMart and blow someone's head off because the checkout line is too long.

 

This country is fucked up.

---

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

---

Well, it's impractical for law enforcement to go chasing after and interrogating every kid who posts some sort of violence fantasy on social media; they'd never get anything else done. So I don't know if "see something, say something" has any real effect, except, as you say, in retrospect. There are indeed warning signs.

 

So I would rather go after the source, as it were. First of all, yes, the parents, and any other adults responsible for the kids. You KNOW that a school shooter kid comes from a home where gun violence is not only condoned but also glorified. Many of these kid shooters were playing with guns--target practice, hunting, etc.--at a very young age. That makes a child "comfortable" with guns and rather blase about the fact that the purpose of a gun is to kill.

 

The ultimate source, though, is the gun love lobby. A shockingly small segment of society/corporate America has managed to control the narrative, and in most cases legislation, so that we're still in the Wild West. Many idiots think that's desirable. 

 

And I've said it before, but the Second Amendment does NOT give individuals the right to own or wield guns. It gives the PEOPLE the right to raise a militia and to collect and store arms for that purpose. Anyone who can read would understand that--the Amendment is very specifically worded. But in one of several historically horrible decisions, SCOTUS drastically expanded the language of the Amendment. Now, it's legal for someone to go into WalMart and blow someone's head off because the checkout line is too long.

 

This country is fucked up.

---

Originally posted by: David Miller

---

And will continue to be as long as their are DemocRats in office.

---

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

---

That is a historically stupid statement, even for Millerscum.

---

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

---

I wouldn't necessarily equate gun possession with 'gun violence' as far as growing up in a household where guns were valued for game hunting or a hobby or something.   Some are intrigued by guns like some are intrigued by antique coins or classic cars.

 

If you read my post thoroughly, I did not suggest that law enforcement attempt to track down every kid who posts something whacko on SM.  But kids do know each other better than their parents know them in some ways, at certain stages of growing up.  If any kid (or adult) feels that something is out of kilter, he/she should feel empowered to 'say something' to a teacher, etc.  But so far it hasn't stopped this scourge of school shootings.

 

Humans act according to what their 'currency' is, what drives them.  The risk of going to prison, or suffering significant financial penalty.  Those would get my attention.

 

Candy

---