Go on be man enough to admit that Trump’s presidency is a failure

I admitted after Joe Biden's debate performance it was time for him to withdraw from the race. Why can't you MAGAs admit Trump's second term has been a failure.

 

He kept none of his big promises and in a lot of cases his actions made what he was complaing about worse. 

 

Admit he simply didn't care about lowering prices, avoiding foreign wars and he actively fought releasing the Epstein files. He still hasn't released substantial portions of them.

 

He illegally tore half the White House down.  He illegally shut down government agencies that will have to be restored at great cost.  He let his friends in the private sector steal a massive amount of personal data from social security. He has ignored hundreds of court orders.

 

Finally, there is no past president in the history of America that used the office to personally enrich himself and his family to the extent Trump has. And we are talking Billions of dollars in graft.


Is it really that hard to admit this is a failed Presidency?

 

 

 

 

A colossal failure

Edited on May 4, 2026 9:24am

Miller will chime in with his idiotic apologia. He can't possibly believe that Trump has never done anything wrong. But his fake internet persona says so. Miller believes that it's the best way to start the arguments that he craves.

Originally posted by: Mark

I admitted after Joe Biden's debate performance it was time for him to withdraw from the race. Why can't you MAGAs admit Trump's second term has been a failure.

 

He kept none of his big promises and in a lot of cases his actions made what he was complaing about worse. 

 

Admit he simply didn't care about lowering prices, avoiding foreign wars and he actively fought releasing the Epstein files. He still hasn't released substantial portions of them.

 

He illegally tore half the White House down.  He illegally shut down government agencies that will have to be restored at great cost.  He let his friends in the private sector steal a massive amount of personal data from social security. He has ignored hundreds of court orders.

 

Finally, there is no past president in the history of America that used the office to personally enrich himself and his family to the extent Trump has. And we are talking Billions of dollars in graft.


Is it really that hard to admit this is a failed Presidency?

 

 

 

 


I'll answer your question. Yes, it's hard, very hard for MAGA to admit that, because they're in a state of cognitive dissonance:

 

a) I'm a brilliant, wise, and noble person who only votes for those who will best serve our country and its people.

b) Donald Trump is a horrible person, an awful President, and a shitstain on the face of humanity.

c) I voted for Donald Trump. Twice.

 

Now, a) and b) cannot both be true. It's difficult, if not impossible, to believe both simultaneously. So there are two ways out:

 

a) Donald Trump is an awful failure, and I never should have voted for him. (This might be known in the future as "doing a Tucker.")

b) Donald Trump is the noble and wise savior of our country, everything will be wonderful real bigly soon, and it's all a witch hunt, he's never done anything wrong, and gas is really $1 a gallon.

 

MAGA chooses the ridiculous b) over the painful a).


Like every president he's done good things and bad things.    THe bad things are through the roof with this guy.

 

I will say he should get credit for closing the border (which is not an endorsement of his deportation policy) just the border.   His biggest positive  will likely be remembered for are the new Trump accounts for newborns who all get a $1000 nest egg which can be added to throughout their life.    

 

But the self dealing.... trade wars, NATO wars, actual wars, Supreme Court pics, conspiracy theories,  FED fights, mass deportations, gutting USAID and the CPFB, and using the DOJ as a revenge tool....thats all shitty.    Whats just as bad is the fact that most Republicans in Congress get it too....but they're too afraid of him to hold him in check.    So screw them too.

Edited on May 4, 2026 10:13am
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Like every president he's done good things and bad things.    THe bad things are through the roof with this guy.

 

I will say he should get credit for closing the border (which is not an endorsement of his deportation policy) just the border.   His biggest positive  will likely be remembered for are the new Trump accounts for newborns who all get a $1000 nest egg which can be added to throughout their life.    

 

But the self dealing.... trade wars, NATO wars, actual wars, Supreme Court pics, conspiracy theories,  FED fights, mass deportations, gutting USAID and the CPFB, and using the DOJ as a revenge tool....thats all shitty.    Whats just as bad is the fact that most Republicans in Congress get it too....but they're too afraid of him to hold him in check.    So screw them too.


PJ, his "closing the border" (which he really hasn't done, but let's accept the term for now for argument's sake) has turned out to be a crushing economic blow to those industries that rely on migrant labor. Turdiffs have made imported foods more expensive. So we have greater demand for domestically produced foods, right? So much winning? Hooray AMURRICA?

 

Except...Trump has destroyed the labor pool upon which American agriculture depends. People who are here perfectly legally are scared to death that they'll be scooped up, beaten and raped, and then flung across the border. People who are here illegally and just want to make a living will hide and run away. And fruit will fall off the trees and rot and the vegetables will shrivel up in the desert sun.

 

But yeah, we've gotten rid of all the criminals and rapists. Oh, shit, there's still the Republicans!

 

Oh and BTW, those Trump newborn accounts haven't materialized.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Like every president he's done good things and bad things.    THe bad things are through the roof with this guy.

 

 


I pretty much agree with this.  

 

Here is where I come down, and I'm quoting from someone closer to the topic, actually a formerly quite right-leaning scholar:  [Note: Bolding is mine.]

 

"The central political battle of the future isn't going to be between Republicans and Democrats but between reasonable Republicans and MAGA Republicans on the one side and reasonable Democrats and woke Democrats on the other, with the reasonable components in both parties having increasing incentives to work together against their respective nutty extremes.

 

"The Republican task is to stiffen the spine and repudiate Trump and MAGA in no uncertain terms, likely at the expense of their political ambitions, but for the sake of the survival of their party.  The Democratic task will be to repudiate the progressive  activist 'groups' that consistently demand their party move ever leftward and denounce in vitriolic fashion anyone who resists going along."

 

IMO, whether Trump's presidency [this one] is a failure still has a little time to brew, personal shortcomings aside.  Whether Biden's is a failure is a metter of personal opinion in informal dialogue at this point.  I'm sure every POTUS's presidency has applauders and criticisers.  We don't (or at least I don't) know who will be running in 2028.  What I quoted, and agree with at this juncture, is more a hope for the future of both parties and our government, and that it happens pronto.

 

Candy

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

I pretty much agree with this.  

 

Here is where I come down, and I'm quoting from someone closer to the topic, actually a formerly quite right-leaning scholar:  [Note: Bolding is mine.]

 

"The central political battle of the future isn't going to be between Republicans and Democrats but between reasonable Republicans and MAGA Republicans on the one side and reasonable Democrats and woke Democrats on the other, with the reasonable components in both parties having increasing incentives to work together against their respective nutty extremes.

 

"The Republican task is to stiffen the spine and repudiate Trump and MAGA in no uncertain terms, likely at the expense of their political ambitions, but for the sake of the survival of their party.  The Democratic task will be to repudiate the progressive  activist 'groups' that consistently demand their party move ever leftward and denounce in vitriolic fashion anyone who resists going along."

 

IMO, whether Trump's presidency [this one] is a failure still has a little time to brew, personal shortcomings aside.  Whether Biden's is a failure is a metter of personal opinion in informal dialogue at this point.  I'm sure every POTUS's presidency has applauders and criticisers.  We don't (or at least I don't) know who will be running in 2028.  What I quoted, and agree with at this juncture, is more a hope for the future of both parties and our government, and that it happens pronto.

 

Candy


For Republicans, the price of apostasy has been too high for all but a few to attempt it. Look at what's happened to the few blasphemers--Liz Cheney, for example. As this guy notes, resisting Trump is a self-sacrifice for them that they probably won't consider--falling on your sword is noble, but the trouble is, after you do, you're, um, dead.

 

I also agree that the Dems have to stop expending so much energy defending the rights of marginalized groups, because that gives the impression that they don't care about Joe Ordinary. They have to focus on how the Republican fealty to rapacious, unfettered, "laissez-faire" capitalism has made the lives of Joe and his family miserable. Focus on how our Republican-poisoned health care system has brought us the twenty-third ranking life expectancy in the world at the highest per capita cost. Focus on how Republican chest-thumping keeps getting us into stupid, illegal, fabulously expensive wars.

 

This guy does scamper to the stupid "woke" adjective, and makes a false equivalence argument when equating "woke" (whatever the fuck that actually is) with MAGA. "Woke" just means "culturally and socially aware." MAGA means "fealty to the worst asshole to ever occupy the Oval Office." I can smell the lingering right-winger stench that still affects his thinking.

 

Unlike you, I do NOT hope that both parties repair themselves. I want the Republicans to go on being the belligerent extremists that they became over the last few decades. I want them to keep on sucking the dicks of people like Trump, and applauding the evil and stupid shit they do. I want them to keep on ruining the lives of ordinary people so the rich can get even richer. Then, hopefully, if our nation survives, in fifty years, the Republican party will be about as relevant as the American Dodo Bird Party is now.

He's been so bad that our MAGA and RINO folks have abandoned the Sink. I'm sure they'll be back when a Democrat is elected President.

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

He's been so bad that our MAGA and RINO folks have abandoned the Sink. I'm sure they'll be back when a Democrat is elected President.


True that !    And all the debt their policies created will suddenly be because of Food Stamps and Foreign Aid.

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