I very very very seldom come into "The Sink". But the Jeopardy tag drew me in. Excellent conversation re women's rights. Even as an old man I am still learning.
I very very very seldom come into "The Sink". But the Jeopardy tag drew me in. Excellent conversation re women's rights. Even as an old man I am still learning.
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
Lots of good trivia material within the history of women's rights.
Here is one: What was William Lloyd Garrison known for?
Hint: Anti-slavery movements found dissent among men unwilling to include women's rights.
Candy
Wasn't he known for publishing an anti-slavery newspaper? The Liberator, I think is what it was called.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Interestingly, the only area of society wherein women have not only caught up to men but surpassed them is higher education. More women in college and graduating than men. About time. And the next equalization will be in medical practice. Give me a female doctor every time.
Very true......my wife has a Master's, while I only have two BAs. She enjoys bringing it up from time to time.
Originally posted by: Edso
Wasn't he known for publishing an anti-slavery newspaper? The Liberator, I think is what it was called.
Bingo! Garrison was an abolitionist of that era who also supported women's rights. He encountered opposition from men who otherwise would have supported the anti-slavery cause except that they objected to the possibility of inclusion of women't rights.
Candy
He was quite a force in the burgeoning newspaper industry. He was keenly aware of the influence newspapers would have on public opinion and sentiment. He was extremely talented and a highly successful entrepreneur.
I came across an interesting anecdote. Because his editorials were controversial, and he wanted to save time, he developed the habit of not even writing them down, but instead, going into the print shop and typesetting them himself. He remarked later that his editorials were the whole purpose of his newspaper publishing business.
You're right, Candy, in that a lot of men (and women) opposed slavery but didn't want women's rights and feared that abolition of the former would lead to an increase in the latter. That's why it took 55 years to get from the end of slavery to women's suffrage.
Originally posted by: jstewa22
I think we're already there. When I was in med school in the mid-70s, there were 5 women in our class of 96. Today, there are more women than men in the class; I seem to remember reading that nationally, med school enrollment passed the 50% female mark about 15 years ago.
I graduated HS 1965. Pre-med wasn't in the 'mainstream' of discussions of next steps, at least among my crowd. Largely girls aimed for teaching or nursing. Sort of a 'sign of the times' thing, I'd guess. My parents expected my two brothers to be doctors, which they did become, but minimal interest re the future for my sister and me. I guess they thought we'd get married, husbands would take over the payments, lol.
I think my inspiration came from watching the early medical dramas on TV, e.g. Dr. Kildare, Ben Casey, etc. Now I can't watch any of them. Doctors don't talk like that! Right, jstewa22?
Candy
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
I graduated HS 1965. Pre-med wasn't in the 'mainstream' of discussions of next steps, at least among my crowd. Largely girls aimed for teaching or nursing. Sort of a 'sign of the times' thing, I'd guess. My parents expected my two brothers to be doctors, which they did become, but minimal interest re the future for my sister and me. I guess they thought we'd get married, husbands would take over the payments, lol.
I think my inspiration came from watching the early medical dramas on TV, e.g. Dr. Kildare, Ben Casey, etc. Now I can't watch any of them. Doctors don't talk like that! Right, jstewa22?
Candy
TV doctor shows seem to have segued from Mr. Invincible Cures the World (Kildare, Casey, et al) to Look at These Goofy/Curmedgeonly Doctors (ER, Chicago Something, House, Brit comedy about some balmy doc who operates in a small seaside town, etc.).
The societal perception of doctors has changed a bit. Now, they're not viewed as infallible or superhuman, but when you and I were growing up...they kind of were. And I think you'll agree, that the "bedside manner" function--comforting and reassuring the patient, and such--used to be considered the province of nurses, while the doc was expected to be businesslike and gruff. Now, an empathetic and compassionate doctor is the ideal. And that is, in conjunction with the stereotypes, more likely to be the case if the doctor is female.
I don't really know if caring for people is a female characteristic or our culture has just made it so. In many other countries, female doctors have been a mainstream thing for decades. Interestingly, one such nation has been Russia. It might have been a consequence of social equality mandates, or of a simple shortage of doctors during and after WWII, or even...doctors' lower position on the social ladder than in other societies.*
*Consider how in the US, doctors are at the top of the social ladder, while teachers are at the bottom; those perceptions are completely reversed in Russia.