Kevin has and continues to take his misguided hatred to new levels each passing day. Stay tuned for much more of the same. Get your popcorn ready...
Kevin has and continues to take his misguided hatred to new levels each passing day. Stay tuned for much more of the same. Get your popcorn ready...
Ah. My being in favor of cheaper and cleaner energy sources and the adding of millions of jobs to the economy is "misguided hatred." I suppose that coming from you, that's kind of a twisted compliment. If you disagree with me, that ipso facto adds validation to my position.
If "green energy" sources were profitable, there would be no need for government mandates or government funding. The private sector would be doing it.
That's my point, Bob. The private sector IS doing it. That's why it's getting cheaper all the time. The government incentives are designed to make the transition process that much easier--for instance, giving a tax credit for solar panel installations helps to defray their cost. And it isn't a matter of whether green energy is "profitable"--it's a matter of it being less costly than fossil fuel energy. Again, totally ognoring the benefits to the environment.
Like I said, MONEY--it's the one thing Republicans understand.
An interesting article on how the proposal defies the laws of math & physics.
For example, Texas would need to devote almost 9,000,000 million acres to generate enough wind farm electricity & hope it is windy every day
By banning coal, it would be impossible to make the concrete & steel for the wind farms.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/daniel-turner-bernie-sanders-green-new-deal-is-an-impossible-dream-that-would-be-a-disaster
It wasn't "profitable" to build the Hoover Dam or the highway system either...at least in any direct sense. Oh, and the US military is not profitable either. Nor is just about anything the government invests in. This idea that public service and investment is some kind of fortune 500 company that is suppossed to yield a profit is a common recourse for people looking to make a weak political point.
The rest of the world is racing to position themselves for the future (like we used to). The only people on the planet who dont want to run in that race now are United States so-called conservatives.
The Amish People started rejecting change and development when the Industrial Revolution arrived. The Newt Gingrich crowd has done the same thing starting in 1980.
We aren't allowed to build anything anymore unless its for the military. According to the FOX News crowd the government cant put people to work. We have to give massive tax cuts to corporations and billionaires and hope they do it. If you look at charts of income disparity and CEO compensation you can see how thats played out.
Meanwhile our water supply is full of lead...our rail system is a time warp to the 20's....and our electrical grid is going the way of Guatamala's.
US Solar jobs employs more people than oil, gas, and coal combined
Would you rather invest in NetFlix or BlockBuster video? Thats sorta the debate we have with energy in this country. It really shouldn't be a debate.
PJ, that encapsulates the weakness of the Republican way of viewing society and the world in a nutshell. They think that the only thing that matters is shareholder value, and the government should be run as if it was some kind of giant corporation. They are literally blind to any concept of social benefits that can't be immediately monetized.
That's why I'm happy that sustainable energy is getting cheaper and cheaper. We should switch from fossil fuels solely for the long-term benefits to the environment--and still should even if renewables cost much more than fossil fuels. However, BONUS!--it saves money both in the short run (the only perspective Republicans have) AND the long run. I know Republicans don't give a flying crap about the environment. But their wallets? They care about THAT.
I agree that it shouldn't even be a debate. But Republican lawmakers sit in their offices, fingering their six-figure bribe checks, and decide that they should keep lying in order to keep the money flowing. It's interesting to consider that a substantial portion of the price you pay at the pump winds up in the pockets of Republican lawmakers!
"It wasn't "profitable" to build the Hoover Dam or the highway system either...at least in any direct sense. Oh, and the US military is not profitable either. Nor is just about anything the government invests in."
What group was, or is, trying to sell the idea that those things ARE profitable, like enviro-nuts are today? Then they (Kevin) say the government (me and you) still has to throw trillions of dollars at these projects. And what about funneling huge amounts of cash to other nations that aren't required to do anything?
What group cares only about profitability? Republicans! They are too myopic to understand that a program doesn't have to generate an immediate dollar return to be beneficial or worthwhile.
The phrase "throw (bazillions) of dollars at" is loaded, and is a favorite childish tactic used by Republicans for decades. How about "throwing billions of dollars at" Trump's wall? How about "throwing billions of dollars away" on Trump's tariffs? Any government expenditure YOU don't like, it's "throwing money away." We can't help it if you are incapable of perceiving the value of improvements to the environment.
At any rate, Sweet Old Bob, since by your use of the term "enviro-nuts" (as if caring about the air we breathe and the water we drink is nuts), you evidently don't care about the environmental benefits of sustainable energy, you can and probably should focus on its economic benefits. Those already are substantial, and will continue to grow. Step out of the straitjacket of your extremist conservative ideology for a while, and you'll see what I mean.
I assume, given your comment about funneling huge amounts of cash blah blah, that you're strongly opposed to Trump sending billions of dollars in aid every year to Israel. I assume you won't vote for him because of that, given your responsible, principled fiscal stance.
