...Nothing. Little Donny fails a lot strikes again.
Well, I guess technically he found out Kim doesn't know anything about Otto Warmbier being tortured. Donny says Kim denied it and he is taking his word for it.
Edited on Feb 28, 2019 8:47pm
...Nothing. Little Donny fails a lot strikes again.
Well, I guess technically he found out Kim doesn't know anything about Otto Warmbier being tortured. Donny says Kim denied it and he is taking his word for it.
Sometimes, no deal is bettter than a bad deal.
F'rinstance:
"When it comes to the Iran nuclear deal, the Obama administration increasingly appears to have been a bottomless pit of deception.
First, President Barack Obama failed to disclose to Congress the existence of secret side deals on inspections when he transmitted the nuclear accord to Capitol Hill. (They were only uncovered by chance when then-Rep. Mike Pompeo, R-Kan., and Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., learned about them during a meeting with International Atomic Energy Agency officials in Vienna.) Then, we learned that the Obama administration had secretly sent a plane to Tehran loaded with $400 million in Swiss francs, euros and other currencies on the same day Iran released four American hostages, which was followed by two more secret flights carrying another $1.3 billion in cash.
Now, in a bombshell revelation, Republicans on the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, led by Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, have revealed in a new report that the Obama administration secretly tried to help Iran use U.S. banks to convert $5.7 billion in Iranian assets, after promising Congress that Iran would not get access to the U.S. financial system -- and then lied to Congress about what it had done.
In other words, the Obama administration: (1) told Congress it would not allow Iran access to U.S. financial institutions; (2) issued a special license allowing Iran to do exactly that; (3) unsuccessfully pressured U.S. banks to help Iran; (4) lied to Congress and the American people about what it had done; (5) admitted in internal emails that these efforts "exceeded" U.S. obligations under the nuclear deal; (6) sent officials, including bank regulators, around the world to urge foreign financial institutions to do business with Iran; and (7) promised that they would get nothing more than a slap on the wrist for violating U.S. sanctions.
How bad is this? Remove the words "Obama" and "Iran" and replace them with "Trump" and "Russia" and imagine the outrage that would ensue over the same revelations. Democrats would be holding news conferences, and the story would be front-page news.
Ref: Washington Post via The Anniston Star
boldface added - DD
Oh, . . . and if the interested reader (if any) opines the Washington Post too right-wing, here's another analysis - "Now there's no denying it: Obama's failed Iran deal wasn't worth the cost" - from The Hill .
I am waiting for PJ and Mark's response to the above posting.
My 2 cents on the big Vietnam summit:
1) I do not begrudge president Trump for not getting a deal. Its pretty hard to get a deal with someone who does not want one.
2) I also do not begrudge president Trump for meeting with the North Korean leader without him making pre-concessions ahead of time. But you know who really was upset about the prospect of that happening? The entire Fox news viewing audience when President Obama simply proposed the idea of a possible meeting with that same leader. Its almost like the Rupert Murdoch crowd doesn't believe their own bullshit or something. I see a pattern.
3) I do begrudge Donald Trump for blasting previous presidents for not getting a deal as they were largely in the same boat. And I especially begrudge Donald Trump for publicly declaring North Korea no longer being a nuclear threat as a result of his last feckless visit that accomplished nothing too.
4) But perhaps the most egregious thing about the meeting was once again watching the sitting president of the worlds most powerful country spit in the face of his own intelligence institutuions and take side with a ruthless dictator in regards to the horrific murder of one of our own citizens by that same dictator. And yet his base isn't nearly as outraged by that as the time Obama forgot to weat his flag pin.
In regards to the Iran deal, people are free to have whatever opinions they want. But the facts surrounding the Iran Deal have been largely ...lets say...bullshitted. And DonDiego's Hill opinion writer is no exception...thats why that article is clearly labeled by the Hill
"BY REBECCAH L. HEINRICHS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 12/22/17 02:30 PM EST 636
As one example....Rebeccah Heinrichs tries to sell the tried and debunked myth that somehow Obama paid off Iran with billions of our dollars in exchange for their halted nuclear program when in fact all we did was give them access to their own money that had been previously frozen in banks because of their nuclear program. It was their own money - not ours.
The Non-opinion writers at Politifact can explain
Its also worth noting that Trump's killing of that deal did not block access to that money again. So now Iran has their money and is also free to restart their nuclear programs. If the Fox News crowd deems that a better scenario I will simply agree to disagree.
I must have missed it (though I reread PJ's posting 3 times) where PJ had ANYTHING to say about his Daddy Obeyme and his underhanded, treasonous, criminal Iran dealings - now that there is something(s) to begrudge. By the way, Obeyme did not forgrt to wear his pin, just like he did not forget to hold his hand over his heart during the playing of the National Anthem.
Originally posted by: David Miller
I must have missed it (though I reread PJ's posting 3 times) where PJ had ANYTHING to say about his Daddy Obeyme and his underhanded, treasonous, criminal Iraq dealings - now that there is something(s) to begrudge. By the way, Obeyme did not forgrt to wear his pin, just like he did not forget to hold his hand over his heart during the playing of the National Anthem.
Whoa! You got the wrong country there, Doc! Thats ok - so did the Bush Administration. And I did answer. See my second post.
Thanks for confirming how angry you were about that flag pin. I'm sure the Warmbier family feels your pain.
Well, it seems there is late-breaking news. It appears Kim was able to get another big concession from Trump even though the summit was cut short.
I do disagree with Ben's analysis because Trump supporters are incapable of feeling embarrassment for things they should feel embarrassed for. Maybe, it is a mental health issue?
Anyway for those keeping score:
Kim got:
1. Absolved from any responsibility in the torture and death of Otto Warmbier.
2. The permanent cancellation of annual large-scale joint exercises conducted with South Korea every spring.
Trump got:
Absolutely nothing, nada, zero, zilch, squat, nill, null, squadouche...
Trump's Art of the deal technique in high level negotiating is apparently to open with surrender making large concessions in hopes that your opponent will do something in return and when your opponent does nothing in return, walk away from the table and then claim to the public that sometimes you have to walk away from a bad deal. Maybe, after Trump gets out of prison, he can teach this technique at Trump University.
