The Health Care Cost Crisis

      In New York, 49% of the taxes are paid by 1% of the population, the wealthy. And yet, New York is a shithole as the other 99% of the population contribute just 51% of the tax dollars. Taxing the wealthy is not a solution. The 51% tax paying dollars that are generated by the 99% of the population are and have been abused by the freelaoding, corrupt thieves who refuse to work and refuse contribute their fair share as they live off of the government tit. This scenario is the norm across the country in blue DemocRAT run cities and states.

Yeah, that's the standard conservative babble, since before Reagan. 

There is a Republican proposal to make medical insurance & all expenses tax deductible 

There is a second proposal to have the government make direct payments to HSA accounts which would be used for expenses and insurance. 

The democrats plan is to keep spending billions 

Neither one of those things makes Healthcare cheaper or stops its inflation.    And your plan is to forgo insurance in favor of an HSA to pay medical bills with?    One night in the hospital will blow through 10 years of your HSA savings.   Good luck with that craziness.    

Insurance costs go down when more people are in the pool.  You can distribute the costs amongst all the participants.   Thats why the individual mandate was passed with Obamacare.     It forced young, healthy people to participate in the insurance pool.      Trump, Republicans and Tom all thought that was a horrible infringement on peoples' liberty to force them to buy health insurance.    So Trump got rid of the mandate.

Republicans "replacement" for Obamacare has been to keep the coverage in place while getting rid of the things that paid for it.    The math doesnt work.    The rest of the world forces everyone in the pool.    Thats part of the reason theirs costs less.

And how is reducing taxes any different from spending? Both create deficits.

How is the government making "direct payments" NOT spending?

Ohhhh, I get it. It's not spending if Republicans do it.

Stupid, stupid, stupid Tom.

Republicans and Trump will be extending the Obamacare subsidies in short order.     As much as they like to pretend they dont like "government programs" the truth is their constituents do.    And they use Obamacare at a higher rate than most blue states.

So in a midterm election year where Republicans are already looking to get smacked down - raising insurance premiums by their own leadership isnt going to fly and make things even worse.

David is going to be munching on his giant, hypocritical foot when Trump signs the Obamacare extension early in 2026.   Either that or Democrats win back both the House and Senate in a landslide midterm election.    Honestly, Im ok either way.

Absolutely meaningless. The average yearly out of pocket on a family plan is more than 18k and the average family  policy is 27k a year in premiums. The Republicans expect every family to pay 45k a year for their healthcare? Plus the stuff that isn't covered by their policy. That's insane. A health savings account with a one time deposit of 2k in it isn't going to cover squat. 

As to the taxes, if you can't afford your premiums and can't afford medical care you won't have anything to write off. 

The way I see it is things are going bad for Republicans right now. Some would say they are going very bad and they will likely be wiped out in the midterms.

This is an opportunity for them to do something big on healthcare, save people money and score a big win and provide them something they could run on and cite as an example of how they brought people's cost down.

Instead they offer token gestures and are going to leave millions without coverage and drive medical costs even higher with the hospital closures. It is a real missed opportunity for an easy big win. I

see why MTG quit over this issue. 

Let's see how that turns out for them in the midterms. 

They could already have done that and ended the shutdown. But Trump-pig the bully thinks that compromise is weakness.

So I don't expect anything meaningful from them. My question now is whether we can flip the House, with all the Republipig cheating, and whether the Pigs have enough vulnerable seats in the Senate.

If things continue as they are, the Turd could lose a lot of the sheeple. People vote with their rice bowls.

So I have heard talk of we need more people in the pool and we need the subsidies.  Wouldn't it be easier to just do a payroll tax to fund this healthcare  problem like they do social security ?  Why does cost have to be hidden in a subsidy. Why do the medical device tax and all the other special taxes that were suposed to fund this all have to be hidden, and just drove up the prices

A payroll tax will never be supported by Republicans. Why? They see it as Medicare for everyone, and Bernie Sanders would agree with you.

None of the taxes were hidden; it was all part of Obamacare to help pay for the legislation.