Here’s how the frauds were doing it. The amount of tax payer money stolen is incredible

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

You are correct that I am new to this forum but I am not new to forums generally. There are ways to communicate on forums that are more effective than others.

 

I understand that you feel your posts get lied about or distorted. I just don't see how posting new threads is a good way to combat that. It would be better to combat those accusations in the same thread. Especially if your intent is to convince others that your opinion is correct. 

 

Who is your intended audience? Those that you wish to convince? Or those you are accusing of lies and distortions? 

 

If it is your goal to have arguments with certain people and show others what you think of them then you are doing fine. However, If it is your goal to be an effective communicator and attempt to convince others then I would suggest considering my advice. 

 

 


  My goal is not to argue - it is to produce the truth with actual facts. It is lke the adage - "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink" -- I can present the truth, it is up to others to derive the value.

Originally posted by: David Miller

   I appreciate your polite question. The reason I make several posts over several days is for these reasons.. First, some people never seem to want to believe what is being said. Secondly, there are those who always deny the truthful facts of my original post. - I post follow up posts to prove the validity of my original post and , by doing so, show just how much of a liar those people are who say the content of my original posts was not true. And lastly, but most importantly, I like to emphasise the fact that the majority of the negative things happening in America are in blue cities and states and are a result of the corrupt DemocRAT party. I will continue to do so in the future as long as the corrupt America hating DemocRATs continue to try to ruin America.


LiveFree, this is a response to you, not Miller. But look at what he's saying. He claims that repeating a statement makes it more "true." He also claims that labeling his posts as "truthful facts" makes them so. And of course, he continues with his political negativity.

 

The reality is that the more someone feels the need to repeat themselves and label what they're saying as "truth" and "facts," the less they believe it themselves. If they genuinely thought that what they said was true, then they wouldn't need to try to shore it up with repetition. And Miller's horrid, nasty responses to anyone who disputes him further indicate that he doesn't believe himself.

 

As an example, Trump and Vance on the campaign trail spread the horrid "eating cats" rumor, and Miller was all over it. He started over a dozen threads about that alone. And when anyone challenged him, he screamed at them and called them liars. Even after the originator of that lie confessed to having made the whole thing up, Vance and Trump--and Miller--continued to claim that it was, as Miller put it, "the truth" and "facts." Everyone in the world knew it was evil, stupid racist bullshit. But Miller kept pitching it.

 

So the child care fraud fairy tale is in that same category: the product of ONE social media poster's sicko lies to gain attention/money. Trump got wind of it and saw it as a great opportunity to wreak "retribution" on Minnesota, a state he has a particular hard-on for.

 

Miller has been pushing it as the absolute truthy truth and a facty fact. You noted that he's been repeating it over and over and over. Joseph Goebbels did that, too. He firmly believed that repeating a lie often enough would make it seem like the truth.

 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

You are correct that I am new to this forum but I am not new to forums generally. There are ways to communicate on forums that are more effective than others.

 

I understand that you feel your posts get lied about or distorted. I just don't see how posting new threads is a good way to combat that. It would be better to combat those accusations in the same thread. Especially if your intent is to convince others that your opinion is correct. 

 

Who is your intended audience? Those that you wish to convince? Or those you are accusing of lies and distortions? 

 

If it is your goal to have arguments with certain people and show others what you think of them then you are doing fine. However, If it is your goal to be an effective communicator and attempt to convince others then I would suggest considering my advice. 

 

 


His SOLE goal is to foment arguments. He's not the least bit interested in discussion. He doesn't try to convince anyone of anything, because what he really wants is disagreement. 

 

You're being a nice guy and it's the honorable thing to do, to at first attempt to talk to Miller reasonably and politely. But we've all tried that, and sooner rather than later, he'll start screaming at you as well and calling you a LIAR LIAR LIAR. He's driven away dozens of people and abused many who remain. One example of that is Candy/O2binVegas, who is a very nice person and has never said an unkind word to anyone. Yet, Miller shat on her and insulted her (called her "delusional," among other things) when she DARED to express doubt of the veracity of one of his posts.

 

And I have no doubt that he'll try to defend himself by posting yet another diatribe about me...as if whatever I do or don't do somehow excuses his behavior.

 

You're fighting the good fight. I greatly respect you for that. You'll find out just how hopeless trying to interact with Miller really is, but kudos for trying.

Thank you for your kind words sir. 

 

 I am getting the sense the gentleman is a bit..... stubborn.  I am not even trying to ask him to change what he says or change the content he cuts and pastes. I am legitimately trying to help him disseminate that information in a more effective manner. I am trying to show him a better communication style.

 

I'm also trying to help the forum be more functional. I will log on to check a thread but have trouble finding it because it got buried behind a bunch of single post threads. 

 

Very few people are going to open up a bunch of single post threads about the same topic, several people will read the entire thread with multiple posts. It seems so simple to me. 

 

I enjoy the web forum format but it's really disappearing and web forums are hard to find now. Hoping this one can become a bit better. 

Edited on Jan 3, 2026 9:13am

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Thank you for your kind words sir. 

 

 I am getting the sense the gentleman is a bit..... stubborn.  I am not even trying to ask him to change what he says or change the content he cuts and pastes. I am legitimately trying to help him disseminate that information in a more effective manner. I am trying to show him a better communication style.

 

I'm also trying to help the forum be more functional. I will log on to check a thread but have trouble finding it because it got buried behind a bunch of single post threads. 

 

Very few people are going to open up a bunch of single post threads about the same topic, several people will read the entire thread with multiple posts. It seems so simple to me. 

 

I enjoy the web forum format but it's really disappearing and web forums are hard to find now. Hoping this one can become a bit better. 


Yes, that's why he starts dozens of threads virtually simultaneously: to crowd others' threads off the home page list.

 

What you're trying to help him do is something he has not the slightest interest in doing. Don Quixote was a cool guy, but after a while, he should have given up and gone home and watched Netflix or something.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

 ...............Don Quixote was a cool guy, but after a while, he should have given up and gone home and watched Netflix or something.


Hahaha. Brilliant line sir. 

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