Hiding the Trump shame

I have some acquaintances who voted for Trump (some used to be friends, until they converted to stupidity and evil by becoming MAGAs). I've asked them why they think that Trump will lower grocery prices.

 

I won't bore you with their answers, most of which were dumb dumb dumb in the extreme and betrayed an utter ignorance of basic economic principles. When I pressed them further, they hemmed and hawed and ultimately defaulted to, "Well, the economy was good under Trump."

 

Yeah. Until it wasn't 

 

None of my MAGA goober acquaintances could tell me exactly what Trump, or any President, could or would do to lower the prices of consumer goods  At this point, they all turned their heads away and started to mumble.

 

Have the MAGAs you've talked to demonstrated their shame in similar fashion? I'm seeing a LOT of buyer's remorse already!

 

Daisy, feel free to chime in, call me a liar, blah blah blah. You can no more control yourself than a donkey can avoid shitting.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I have some acquaintances who voted for Trump (some used to be friends, until they converted to stupidity and evil by becoming MAGAs). I've asked them why they think that Trump will lower grocery prices.

 

I won't bore you with their answers, most of which were dumb dumb dumb in the extreme and betrayed an utter ignorance of basic economic principles. When I pressed them further, they hemmed and hawed and ultimately defaulted to, "Well, the economy was good under Trump."

 

Yeah. Until it wasn't 

 

None of my MAGA goober acquaintances could tell me exactly what Trump, or any President, could or would do to lower the prices of consumer goods  At this point, they all turned their heads away and started to mumble.

 

Have the MAGAs you've talked to demonstrated their shame in similar fashion? I'm seeing a LOT of buyer's remorse already!

 

Daisy, feel free to chime in, call me a liar, blah blah blah. You can no more control yourself than a donkey can avoid shitting.


  Another "the sky is falling" fallacy by Karen Lewis. All he knows how to do is complain, make up unproven lies, and allow his TDS to control his feeble minded thoughts. We have seen this type of moronic musings and behavior from Karen time and again. He will, once again, be found to be the lying liberal he has always been.

Right now, all the MAGAs I know are happy as hell.  Just my observation.  I play a lot of poker and see many with the hats on and they are thrilled right now.  Gloating even I'd say.  

Edited on Nov 23, 2024 5:24pm
Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Right now, all the MAGAs I know are happy as hell.  Just my observation.  I play a lot of poker and see many with the hats on and they are thrilled right now.  Gloating even I'd say.  


Well, sure. That's because they're stupid enough to believe that everything will now be sunshine, bunnies, and rainbows now. Gas will be fifty cents a gallon. Groceries will cost a tenth as much as they do now. All the FEELTHY IMMERGENTS will be driven out of the country (including those who are here legally and have been here for decades), with absolutely no impact on the economy. A national sales tax will be imposed, but don't worry, it won't hurt consumers--China will pay it. Corporations will pay zero taxes, but don't worry--the government will make it all up on tariff revenue. Medicare and Social Security will be defunded--but it'll all be OK once those old people die off (and they'll croak a lot faster that way!).

 

Lots of people in Russia were ecstatic in 1918. Until Stalin killed twenty million of his own citizens--many by forced starvation. Lots of Germans were thrilled when Uncle Adolf took power in 1933--twelve years later, their country was in ruins and occupied by conquering armies.

 

So I have no doubt that there are lots of happy little MAGAs out there right now. Hell, that's why I stopped playing poker at South Point a couple of years ago--too many vocal, obnoxious Trumpers (I'm talking 75 percent or more of the clientele, with of course dealers chiming in to grovel for tokes). However, I was more referring to the fair-weather Trumpers--the people who even now, feel a little bit uneasy about how the country is veering sharply to the right, and are wondering if they did the right thing when they voted for the Turd. Of course, my sample could be biased, because my former acquaintances are generally people who have a brain and I could talk to without getting nauseous. That's a pretty small subset of Trumpers in general.


Originally posted by: David Miller

  Another "the sky is falling" fallacy by Karen Lewis. All he knows how to do is complain, make up unproven lies, and allow his TDS to control his feeble minded thoughts. We have seen this type of moronic musings and behavior from Karen time and again. He will, once again, be found to be the lying liberal he has always been.


Like clockwork. Or maybe a parrot.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Well, sure. That's because they're stupid enough to believe that everything will now be sunshine, bunnies, and rainbows now. Gas will be fifty cents a gallon. Groceries will cost a tenth as much as they do now. All the FEELTHY IMMERGENTS will be driven out of the country (including those who are here legally and have been here for decades), with absolutely no impact on the economy. A national sales tax will be imposed, but don't worry, it won't hurt consumers--China will pay it. Corporations will pay zero taxes, but don't worry--the government will make it all up on tariff revenue. Medicare and Social Security will be defunded--but it'll all be OK once those old people die off (and they'll croak a lot faster that way!).

 

Lots of people in Russia were ecstatic in 1918. Until Stalin killed twenty million of his own citizens--many by forced starvation. Lots of Germans were thrilled when Uncle Adolf took power in 1933--twelve years later, their country was in ruins and occupied by conquering armies.

 

So I have no doubt that there are lots of happy little MAGAs out there right now. Hell, that's why I stopped playing poker at South Point a couple of years ago--too many vocal, obnoxious Trumpers (I'm talking 75 percent or more of the clientele, with of course dealers chiming in to grovel for tokes). However, I was more referring to the fair-weather Trumpers--the people who even now, feel a little bit uneasy about how the country is veering sharply to the right, and are wondering if they did the right thing when they voted for the Turd. Of course, my sample could be biased, because my former acquaintances are generally people who have a brain and I could talk to without getting nauseous. That's a pretty small subset of Trumpers in general.


The totalitarianism state of 1918 government  in Russia ( and for several years thereafter) under Stalin had no systematic checks and balances to prevent it. Likewise the governmental systems in place under Hitler didn't either. The US has those protections in place and to date ( after roughly 250 years) any totalitarian movements have failed here. Your version of historical events leaves out important contextual components..namely this ain't Russia or Germany in the early 20th century. You have little faith in our foundational tenets with these false comparisons and again you assign too much power to Trump. You forget that there's a considerable body of R's / conservatives that don't want to align with him on every stinkin issue. In the end, however, the people have spoken and you're just going to have to suck it up and subsist. Either that or move / secede from the union as you've indicated multiple times. I have bulky doubts regarding either option.

 

Conditions are just simply not comparable because of inherent governmental system differences between these instances you bring up and the US. It's just more frustated fear throwing on  your part.

Originally posted by: Nines

The totalitarianism state of 1918 government  in Russia ( and for several years thereafter) under Stalin had no systematic checks and balances to prevent it. Likewise the governmental systems in place under Hitler didn't either. The US has those protections in place and to date ( after roughly 250 years) any totalitarian movements have failed here. Your version of historical events leaves out important contextual components..namely this ain't Russia or Germany in the early 20th century. You have little faith in our foundational tenets with these false comparisons and again you assign too much power to Trump. You forget that there's a considerable body of R's / conservatives that don't want to align with him on every stinkin issue. In the end, however, the people have spoken and you're just going to have to suck it up and subsist. Either that or move / secede from the union as you've indicated multiple times. I have bulky doubts regarding either option.

 

Conditions are just simply not comparable because of inherent governmental system differences between these instances you bring up and the US. It's just more frustated fear throwing on  your part.


The Founding Fathers fucked up quite a bit; they made awful compromises to appease the slave states, and we're still feeling the negative effects of that; and they lived in a time when, to name just one huge difference, the idea of a Supreme Court justice living for three or four decades after being appointed was unthinkable. The result of all those miscalculations is that our system of checks and balances does not work when one party controls all branches of government, including the courts.

 

But here's the most important aspect that they didn't see coming. They didn't imagine that a political party would put itself wholly and thoroughly before their country; they never dreamed that a large group of legislators, from diverse walks of life and a widespread area, would clot together and form a voting monolith, as the MAGA Republicans have done. And yes, there are some apostates in the Republican gang--but really, how many? And you know what happens to them--just ask Liz Cheney, who DARED to question the divinity of the Orange Turd.

 

I know that you don't fathom that we are about to have a totalitarian government. Absolute majority rule in the hands of a party and a leader who lack ethics, morality, or fealty to the ideals of democracy IS TOTALITARIAN RULE. So the minority is still allowed to stand up in the hallowed chambers and protest (until Trump arrests them and they're dragged away, that is). So what? It's just going to be pro forma, with the House and Senate performing the same purely ceremonial functions as Stalin's Politburo or Hitler's Reichstag.

 

You place a great deal of faith in the disruptive power of the apostates and blasphemers--those beknighted Republican souls who have criticized/opposed/frowned at Trump in the past. Well, how long do you think they'll last, before a) Trump, who's making his enemies list and checking it twice, goes after them for being naughty and not nice to him, or b) they cravenly kowtow to save their careers and/or asses?

 

Or do you not remember how many Republiturds refused to certify the 2020 election--because Trump ordered them to? Or how many of them voted against Biden's immigration reform bill--because Trump ordered them to? In each case, they acted against their own and their country's self-interests--because their orange master told them to.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

The Founding Fathers fucked up quite a bit; they made awful compromises to appease the slave states, and we're still feeling the negative effects of that; and they lived in a time when, to name just one huge difference, the idea of a Supreme Court justice living for three or four decades after being appointed was unthinkable. The result of all those miscalculations is that our system of checks and balances does not work when one party controls all branches of government, including the courts.

 

But here's the most important aspect that they didn't see coming. They didn't imagine that a political party would put itself wholly and thoroughly before their country; they never dreamed that a large group of legislators, from diverse walks of life and a widespread area, would clot together and form a voting monolith, as the MAGA Republicans have done. And yes, there are some apostates in the Republican gang--but really, how many? And you know what happens to them--just ask Liz Cheney, who DARED to question the divinity of the Orange Turd.

 

I know that you don't fathom that we are about to have a totalitarian government. Absolute majority rule in the hands of a party and a leader who lack ethics, morality, or fealty to the ideals of democracy IS TOTALITARIAN RULE. So the minority is still allowed to stand up in the hallowed chambers and protest (until Trump arrests them and they're dragged away, that is). So what? It's just going to be pro forma, with the House and Senate performing the same purely ceremonial functions as Stalin's Politburo or Hitler's Reichstag.

 

You place a great deal of faith in the disruptive power of the apostates and blasphemers--those beknighted Republican souls who have criticized/opposed/frowned at Trump in the past. Well, how long do you think they'll last, before a) Trump, who's making his enemies list and checking it twice, goes after them for being naughty and not nice to him, or b) they cravenly kowtow to save their careers and/or asses?

 

Or do you not remember how many Republiturds refused to certify the 2020 election--because Trump ordered them to? Or how many of them voted against Biden's immigration reform bill--because Trump ordered them to? In each case, they acted against their own and their country's self-interests--because their orange master told them to.


      You are so full of self aggrandizing bullshit.

Originally posted by: David Miller

      You are so full of self aggrandizing bullshit.


I disagree with you. In your little mind, that's a crime.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

I disagree with you. In your little mind, that's a crime.


  Of course you disagree, the truth is something that has forever been foreign to you...

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